Smokescreen

[wcndave]

Literally.

On boot today this is all I get. I have tried removing usb. Same.

Anyone seen this before?

[hawsey]

Does it not change from this?

[wcndave]

It has now been on for forty five minutes since picture and I have the o2 logo. Stuck there now.

[hawsey]

Do you have a new os on a usb stick you can try to boot from?

[hawsey]

If you can boot anything from usb you can try reflash your joggler if not its a bit more complicated but usually still recoverable

[wcndave]

I have tried with usb, no luck so far. However it's in my workshop so really have to take home again.bit off a pain

[hawsey]

Ok if you write a new image to a usb stick (try two in case its the stick) and it still wont play ball then you will need a usb hub with four ports, a wired mouse and a wired keyboard to hand and we will talk you through from there...

[wcndave]

Should I try the sqos again or revert to original? Thanks!

[Juggler]

I'd hazard a guess that your Joggler is colder than usual...

My kitchen Joggler allows me to estimate the temperature by the amount of the effect on the screen, which you have shown. An additional undocumented feature, maybe ?

I have found that increasing the brightness generates more heat so the effect you have shown, diminishes progressively.

It also appears to be variable according to the Joggler you have. Some I have, the whole screen will be greyish, as yours is. Others the grey effect will progress upwards from the bottom of the screen, as the temperature reduces. I have found this effect to be present from around 10 deg C to 5 deg C with a low brightness, say 5 out of a possible 32. But of course yours may be quite different, as Jogglers seem to have a uniqueness of their own in many ways. Below 5 deg C, I have yet to see, perhaps if we have a more severe winter, I can comment on this - but I hope that I am not able to...

On one joggler, whatever is on the screen is completely obscured, as yours appears to be. On another I have, it is still possible to make out characters, as I use a text interface.

HTH and be interested to hear your comments.

[hawsey]

I agree with juggler, the smokey screen thing in particular just happens with some jogglers and it almost always clears after boot up and the os is running.
I am right in thinking your joggler will not boot up at all?
If so just try creating a squeezeplay os boot stick and see if a freshly created stick will work.

[wcndave]

I'd hazard a guess that your Joggler is colder than usual...

Remarkable!

Yes, it was about 3 deg when I turned it on... I have a digital thermometer next to the joggler by coincidence.

After time, including leaving it switched on for one hour, the screen became blacker and blacker, but it never got beyond the O2 logo.

The room reached 13.5 deg eventually, however there was no improvement.

[johnnygal]

Yep, I have seen this too when the joggler is really cold. It happened shortly after delivery, so probably had been in a cold courier depot all night. Once I let it come up to normal room temperature, the screen was back to normal and it booted up ok.

I occasionally see the white/light screen effect if the room is left to get cold but it still boots in this scenario. Once running, it soon warms up and the screen fixes itself in a few minutes.

[hawsey]

You will need these instructions to recover your joggler if you have no boot from usb
http://birdslikewires.co.uk/articles/jogglerflash
Thanks to Roobarb this guide has brought many a Joggler back from the grave B-)

[wcndave]

• I let this warm up in front of the fire in my workshop, and still same problem, except no grey smokey screen, just o2 logo and nothing.
• Used reflash usb stick and came up straight away, so cannot have been the temperature at that time, unless it only affects the internal memory.
• Switch off before reflash actually starts to retest, and still nothing on the internal os
• Reinstalled O2 system at home and all worked fine
• Installed SqueezeOS, all perfect
• Installed LMS and rebooted, all perfect
• Today turned on and stuck on O2 logo again...

It's at home and quite warm. (> 10 deg C), so can't see that temperature was the issue this time, unless the original low temperature did something that a successful reflash does not recover. Can't think what.

Also this is planned for low temp (down to -10 in winter) and highish (+40 in summer) location - at the moment i am back to a touch player instead...

does the above indicate any new direction, or shall i continue with the birdwire instructions?

[hawsey]

It sounds like your joggler will not hold the reflash, this is fairly common :-/ you have a couple of choices,
1.reflash the joggler then leave on permanently (which is how they were designed)
2 .experiment with different os s that boot off usb stick for this joggler and get another for PNPIII .
The second is what I did as even though I left it on all the time, the odd power outage was all it took to corrupt it so I got sick.
The smokescreen issue is something else completely as you have guessed B-)

[wcndave]

When i first got the joggler and put squeezeOS on there it worked fine with about 30 power off / ons, so not sure about the not holding reflash.

I am trying again now...

[wcndave]

So, the summary right now is:

I can boot SqueezeOS from USB, I can boot openpeak from memory, both survive multiple reboots (in my office, so warm), however installing SqOS to internal memory never succeeds past reboot after install.

I have done a repart in the reflash - so not sure what else I an try?

If I could get a second partition on the USB drive then I wouldn't mind so much, however I really only want one USB device attached in my workshop.

[JimbobVFR400]

Sorry Dave I thought you'd sorted the partitioning in another thread.

Just to confirm, you flash the SqPOS .IMG file to your stick. And then use a partition manager program to add a partition for your music in the unused space?

Does this workshop joggler require the WiFi stick at all? If it doesn't you could stick a smaller USB with the OS on inside the joggler and then use your larger stick in the external slot.

Oh and BTW both of my Jogglers have the smoky screen effect on first reboot. Has never been a problem and it clears as soon as the squeezeplay splash screen comes up. I've just considered a quirk of the joggler.

[wcndave]

Yes, i write the image, then i created a FAT32 partition using gparted on the remaining space, however when i open in windows, i see the following (upon trying to assign a drive letter)

My Joggler has the extra donkey ears wifi, and when my new house is built i will put it in the new workshop on wifi - so i'd like to keep that if possible.

Of course then I won't need the music files to be local, so that all goes away.

this was all working perfectly for a couple of weeks until suddenly smokey screen and now i cannot install sqos on the internal memory, so something must have "broken" on the joggler at some point.

this is one i got of the bay for this specific purpose.

[JimbobVFR400]

Its been a while since I used gparted but do you remember what options you chose when creating the fat partition?

Another alternative could be simply expand the Linux partition, you could then either install Samba to share a folder on the network of use WinSCP to copy your music across. IIRC you were planning on using this Joggler without a connection? In which connecting temporarily and using winscp just for copying files as and when needed.