BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED June 15
Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
Don't install the P'n'P version iPlayer; the new one from spoyser is much, much better.
Firstly, uninstall iPlayer using P'n'P then install spoyser's version using instructions at the beginning of this thread (you have to scroll down quite a bit for the telnet/SSH instructions).
I followed his instructions up till he mentioned using vi - it's a venerable but clunky old editor. Instead I edited the applications.xml file using WinSCP, which is a heck of a lot easier but isn't cross-platform.
Firstly, uninstall iPlayer using P'n'P then install spoyser's version using instructions at the beginning of this thread (you have to scroll down quite a bit for the telnet/SSH instructions).
I followed his instructions up till he mentioned using vi - it's a venerable but clunky old editor. Instead I edited the applications.xml file using WinSCP, which is a heck of a lot easier but isn't cross-platform.
Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
thanks,
I did all of the above several time before on several jogglers all with the same outcoome (live streams show xxxx is unavailable).
I know the pnp gets a few bad posts so I tried it on a joggler going back under warranty to find out about it rather than break one of my working ones
. I noticed that the iplayer install does show the live feeds where the spoyser version works great but doesn't allow the live feeds. I am assuming it is down to my connection if no one else has ever suffered these symptoms. I will try swapping out the router next.
I did all of the above several time before on several jogglers all with the same outcoome (live streams show xxxx is unavailable).
I know the pnp gets a few bad posts so I tried it on a joggler going back under warranty to find out about it rather than break one of my working ones

Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
Is any residual crud being left over from a previous install? Stuff that might screw up a new install? Try deleting the iPlayer folder in its entirety and installing again. I only have problems streaming live channels when they are either unavailable (e.g. before 7pm for BBC3 etc.) or when the content showing on TV isn't licensed for iPlayer use (e.g. some films or internationally syndicated stuff).Avman wrote:thanks,
I did all of the above several time before on several jogglers all with the same outcoome (live streams show xxxx is unavailable).
I know the pnp gets a few bad posts so I tried it on a joggler going back under warranty to find out about it rather than break one of my working ones. I noticed that the iplayer install does show the live feeds where the spoyser version works great but doesn't allow the live feeds. I am assuming it is down to my connection if no one else has ever suffered these symptoms. I will try swapping out the router next.
The only reason I'm thinking a previous install might be screwing things up is because I installed iPlayer on my brother-in-law's Joggler last week without problems. It had never been hacked or pimped before.
Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
hmm,
the screen i get is the one you would expect when there is no stream but it happens on all channels at all times. I'll try a delete and fresh install to see what happens.
the screen i get is the one you would expect when there is no stream but it happens on all channels at all times. I'll try a delete and fresh install to see what happens.
Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
Same thing, I would normally point the blame at my broadband connection but its the same result on another joggler at a different porperty (different exchange and ISP).Avman wrote:hmm,
the screen i get is the one you would expect when there is no stream but it happens on all channels at all times. I'll try a delete and fresh install to see what happens.
Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
@avman
If you are getting the message channel is not available at this time then it isn't down to connection.
Can you confirm you are UK based.
Have you edited the iplayer.cgi file at all?
At the top of the iPlayer.cgi file there are 3 lines that start with #echo, can you remove the hashes then try and launch the live bbc one stream, then post the contents of the file iPlayer.log here.
If you are getting the message channel is not available at this time then it isn't down to connection.
Can you confirm you are UK based.
Have you edited the iplayer.cgi file at all?
At the top of the iPlayer.cgi file there are 3 lines that start with #echo, can you remove the hashes then try and launch the live bbc one stream, then post the contents of the file iPlayer.log here.
Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
I haven't edited the iplayer.cgi.
just made the alterations you suggested but there is no iplayer.log in the iPlayer folder or in the log folder.
Also noticed there are 2 iPlayer folder with contents
media/iPlayer
media/appshop/iPlayer
is this correct?. This is on the joggler I have NOT installed the alternative "live only" app on. Just a couple attempts of this version.
just made the alterations you suggested but there is no iplayer.log in the iPlayer folder or in the log folder.
Also noticed there are 2 iPlayer folder with contents
media/iPlayer
media/appshop/iPlayer
is this correct?. This is on the joggler I have NOT installed the alternative "live only" app on. Just a couple attempts of this version.
Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
@Avman
1) What are the contents of the 2 folders you listed?
2) Can you confirm you are UK based?
3) Can you confirm that you installed the iPlayer files into the /media/iPlayer folder (NOT /media/appshop/iPlayer)?
4) Can you confirm the message (word for word) you get when trying to play a live stream?
5) After you have edited the iPlayer.cgi file it should look like this:
#!/bin/sh
#Joggler iPlayer script by Sean Poyser
app=$1
type=$2
param=$3
echo "app=$app" >> /media/iPlayer/iPlayer.log
echo "type=$type" >> /media/iPlayer/iPlayer.log
echo "param=$param" >> /media/iPlayer/iPlayer.log
etc etc
If you do not then get a iPlayer.log file when you start the live stream can you try an on demand stream and see if you get log file?
1) What are the contents of the 2 folders you listed?
2) Can you confirm you are UK based?
3) Can you confirm that you installed the iPlayer files into the /media/iPlayer folder (NOT /media/appshop/iPlayer)?
4) Can you confirm the message (word for word) you get when trying to play a live stream?
5) After you have edited the iPlayer.cgi file it should look like this:
#!/bin/sh
#Joggler iPlayer script by Sean Poyser
app=$1
type=$2
param=$3
echo "app=$app" >> /media/iPlayer/iPlayer.log
echo "type=$type" >> /media/iPlayer/iPlayer.log
echo "param=$param" >> /media/iPlayer/iPlayer.log
etc etc
If you do not then get a iPlayer.log file when you start the live stream can you try an on demand stream and see if you get log file?
Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
1)
contents of folder media/iPlayer:-
icon.swf
iPlayer.cgi
iPlayer.log (now visible)
iPlayer.tgz
language.xml
main.swf
manage.swf
sqp.sh
contents of media/appshop/iPlayer:-
icon.swf
iPlayer.cgi
language.xml
main.swf
manage.swf
2) yes I'm uk based
3) I installed into media/iPlayer
4) I can't at the moment as the live stream has returned to the white screen, usually I get "BBC One is not currently available" with a BBC One background
5) contents of the log file which is now present below:-
pp=bbc_one_london
type=TV
param=
app=closebtn
type=
param=
app=closeapp
type=
param=
app=bbc_one_london
type=TV
param=
app=closebtn
type=
param=
app=closeapp
type=
param=
app=bbc_one_london
type=TV
param=
app=closebtn
type=
param=
app=closeapp
type=
param=
from what I understand its just showing me open and close the app.
contents of folder media/iPlayer:-
icon.swf
iPlayer.cgi
iPlayer.log (now visible)
iPlayer.tgz
language.xml
main.swf
manage.swf
sqp.sh
contents of media/appshop/iPlayer:-
icon.swf
iPlayer.cgi
language.xml
main.swf
manage.swf
2) yes I'm uk based
3) I installed into media/iPlayer
4) I can't at the moment as the live stream has returned to the white screen, usually I get "BBC One is not currently available" with a BBC One background
5) contents of the log file which is now present below:-
pp=bbc_one_london
type=TV
param=
app=closebtn
type=
param=
app=closeapp
type=
param=
app=bbc_one_london
type=TV
param=
app=closebtn
type=
param=
app=closeapp
type=
param=
app=bbc_one_london
type=TV
param=
app=closebtn
type=
param=
app=closeapp
type=
param=
from what I understand its just showing me open and close the app.
Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
@avman
iPLayer.log file looks correct (you can put the hashes back in the iPLayer.cgi file, otherwise the log file with grow and grow!)
White screen indicates poor connectivity (usually caused due to wifi dropping out on the jogger try rebooting).
Can you try again and confirm the error message you get.
Is there any chance you can connect joggler to router via cable and try?
iPLayer.log file looks correct (you can put the hashes back in the iPLayer.cgi file, otherwise the log file with grow and grow!)
White screen indicates poor connectivity (usually caused due to wifi dropping out on the jogger try rebooting).
Can you try again and confirm the error message you get.
Is there any chance you can connect joggler to router via cable and try?
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Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
Hi
Could someone detail the steps to modify the sleep value in iPlayer.cgi in order to try to get the cross in the corner to appear more often?
I use putty to telent into my joggler. Could you write the script to paste in order to edit the file?
appreciate it, im very new to this telnet stuff. Thanks!
Could someone detail the steps to modify the sleep value in iPlayer.cgi in order to try to get the cross in the corner to appear more often?
I use putty to telent into my joggler. Could you write the script to paste in order to edit the file?
appreciate it, im very new to this telnet stuff. Thanks!
Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
@darrenkellum
Telnet in then:
cd media\iPlayer
vi iPlayer.cgi
press the i on the keyboard, this enters insert mode
scroll to bottom and change sleep 3 to sleep 10 (you can try different numbers until you get one that works okay for you, this is the delay before the close button appears)
Then hit ESC followed by :x return (save and exit)
Hope that helps
Telnet in then:
cd media\iPlayer
vi iPlayer.cgi
press the i on the keyboard, this enters insert mode
scroll to bottom and change sleep 3 to sleep 10 (you can try different numbers until you get one that works okay for you, this is the delay before the close button appears)
Then hit ESC followed by :x return (save and exit)
Hope that helps
Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
Sorry for the delay, I haven't been able to replicate the message as its just a white screen at the moment. I know this is due to the connection so I'll keep trying and report back.spoyser wrote:@avman
iPLayer.log file looks correct (you can put the hashes back in the iPLayer.cgi file, otherwise the log file with grow and grow!)
White screen indicates poor connectivity (usually caused due to wifi dropping out on the jogger try rebooting).
Can you try again and confirm the error message you get.
Is there any chance you can connect joggler to router via cable and try?
On another joggler at another property I'm getting 404 errors on all the podcasts. Has anyone else experienced this?.
J
Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
@avman
Just checked podcasts and they seem fine, any in particular that didn't work?
Just checked podcasts and they seem fine, any in particular that didn't work?
Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
Hi, just installed this .. very impressed. thanks for all the hard work.
Some comments from myside. I have noticed that after watching iPlayer for a period of time , the brightness dims.
This is the default action when the joggler is left idle i believe, but i couldnt get the brightness to return to normal by touching the screen etc
Is there something that can be done? .. I have switched off screensaver .. not sure if this will resolve but is not ideal anyway
Also the response to pressing buttons/ icons when the iplayer is running can be very slow .. to the point you keep retrying as you are not sure it has worked.
Can this be changed ? When not using iPlayer the response is fine
Thanks in advance and agin great work, many thanks
Some comments from myside. I have noticed that after watching iPlayer for a period of time , the brightness dims.
This is the default action when the joggler is left idle i believe, but i couldnt get the brightness to return to normal by touching the screen etc
Is there something that can be done? .. I have switched off screensaver .. not sure if this will resolve but is not ideal anyway
Also the response to pressing buttons/ icons when the iplayer is running can be very slow .. to the point you keep retrying as you are not sure it has worked.
Can this be changed ? When not using iPlayer the response is fine
Thanks in advance and agin great work, many thanks
Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
If you have Plug'n'Pimp installed it has a tool to disable screen dimming. Very easy to use.
I think the delays you are experiencing when selecting icons is just the player fetching the streams. I don't notice a greater delay than I do on my XBMC iPlayer plugin but other users might have a different slant on this.
I think the delays you are experiencing when selecting icons is just the player fetching the streams. I don't notice a greater delay than I do on my XBMC iPlayer plugin but other users might have a different slant on this.
Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
Ok thanks for the reply. I dont have plug'n'pimp installed .. i will look at this now
Thanks again
Thanks again
Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
There should be a command to disable dimming that you can apply using SSH but I don't know what it would be. Plug'n'Pimp is just an easy way to execute commands using a webserver.
Maybe somebody else on the forum would know which command would disable dimming - gforums might be the person to ask.
Maybe somebody else on the forum would know which command would disable dimming - gforums might be the person to ask.
Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
Where do I put IPLAYER.TGZ to install it , do I just drop it onto a USB stick ??
Re: BBC iPlayer/Live/Podcast/Categories Player - UPDATED Jun
Ok tried this a few times now everything goes well until right at the end , cant seem to save settings, cant get out of the vi applications.xml