XBMC on Joggler - tweaks and suggestions

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Re: XBMC on Joggler - tweaks and suggestions

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did you mess with any network settings in xbmc? make sure you didn't enable the proxy etc. if you can access the internet through a browser, xbmc should also work fine to grab weather feeds etc and so on. If you post an xbmc debug log I could take a look. you could also take this up over at xbmc.org perhaps and see if they can help. Not seen this issue myself though (I run xbmc on jolios on my joggler)
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xoom450 wrote:i can access wifi and use web browser in linux mint,jollicloud and unbuntu on the joggler but no wifi connection found in xbmc , this is gettin to the giving up point but nah i will plod on ....thx i await any help
This is really bizarre!

I've had configuration problems running the standalone version of XBMC but the one included on BuZz's distros has always worked straight away (and I have played around with all of them). I've only ever had to add extra plugins.

I can only suggest taking your Joggler round to a good friend's house and asking to use their wireless connection for testing. If it works there, the problem is probably with your router's wireless configuration (assuming you haven't meddled with the XBMC setup). Other than that, I'm stumped.
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hi again ive just put the latest version of linux mint on usb with xbmc thats already in linux mint, i added no internet settings to it.
linux mint is connected to wifi and i can browse the internet but when i click on xbmc that came with linux mint it wont connect to my wifi, i click on weather it says you need internet connection , i click on downloads or add ons and they dont download. i will try and get a report when i can if i can fathom out how to. thx for your patience. i just wondered is there a firewall stoppin it from connecting or should i be puttin some settings in the internet options or http or pnp.
i also have gforums software on there and that runs like a dream. maybe something installed is blockin me accessin the wifi with xbmc oh well. i put spotify on via wine and that accesses the wifi and works ok, squeezeplay works ok too , so im baffled. i dont think takin my joggler to a mates house would solve anything, xbmc is workin on my pc on my wifi so i think this is a mystery. someone mentioned access via terminal to input certain lines but couldnt there be a line written in the next versions of linux mint or jolicloud that adds xbmc to my wifi connection just like linux mint. ps im a novice so bear with me
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My suggestion about using a mate's wireless connection was just for testing purposes. If it works OK on another connection you can eliminate the Joggler as being at fault and examine your router's network/firewall settings to see if anything is blocked. If the same problem occurs on another connection you can start looking at the Joggler's settings.

Just because something is working on your PC doesn't mean it will work on another device. Your PC may have a wired connection to your router. Have you tried a wired connection to your Joggler? If XBMC works using ethernet, you may have some tweaking to do to your wireless settings and device permissions.

I installed the 1.9 version of Ubuntu Maverick yesterday and initially had problems with loading xbmc plugins - i.e. they wouldn't download and install. Later they installed fine and I discovered that the likely cause of my earlier problem was Ubuntu's Update Manager running in the background. As soon as it stopped scanning the system for updates everything was hunky dory.
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hi again and thx for everything i redid the latest linux mint and added the unofficial repositories from xbmc via a zip file and now its picking up my wifi and adding updates etc .... phew thats that sorted . a big thank you for your help guys..
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Glad you've got it sorted. I only really discovered XBMC on the Joggler (I knew about it but hadn't tried it before) and it's awesome! I'm also thinking about getting Apple TV, jailbreaking it and adding XBMC to that. You can get one for about £90.
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ok thx 4 everything . xbmc is a nice interface well worth addin to the joggler and the inclusion in linux mint is brill .
least whilst i was tryin to get xbmc workin i stumbled upon linux mint which i think is a really great os run from a usb flash drive... take care
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Hi all, using latest joli Os. Anyone else found that the tvcatchup plugin for xbmc isn't working anymore? Can anyone else test please. Many thanks
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I used it a day or two ago. worth going to a terminal (alt+f1) and doing sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to make sure you have the latest xbmc.

make sure you have the latest tv catchup also.

[edit] ok they are not working - see http://forums.tvcatchup.com/showthread. ... nnels-work

also worth noting, there is not really much different with xbmc on the joggler from linux, so the main xbmc forums etc might be better places to look for answers for xbmc specific issues.
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I posted this in another thread but it should be here really:

a little tip to try with xbmc - by default the new "dirty region" handling isn't enabled, so the whole gui is rendered the whole time. for less cpu usage, and better gui performance you can add a file "advancedsettings.xml" to ~/.xbmc/userdata/ with the contents

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<advancedsettings>
  <gui>    
    <nofliptimeout>1000</nofliptimeout>
    <algorithmdirtyregions>1</algorithmdirtyregions>
  </gui>
</advancedsettings>
more details on http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Ad ... ttings.xml - ive not tried the algorithmdirtyregions = 2 yet, but certainly when switching on debugging, fps went up when in the gui. Let me know how it works for you.
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Thanks all.

Will report back really the dirty regions.
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Set dirtyregions to 2 and very impressed with the speed of the interface. Thanks for the tip.
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dirtyregions settings will not work with all skins though. BuZz, do you know if it works with Xeebo? It will work with the default Confluence skin but I'm not sure which others have support.

I've not tried the settings on the Joggler yet but I tried it on Apple TV2. Unfortunately, although it should reduce the load on the ATV2 hardware, it is very buggy at present (on the ATV2 that is). It causes lots of flickering on the XBMC user interface. I'm hoping for better with the Joggler.
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gegs wrote:dirtyregions settings will not work with all skins though. BuZz, do you know if it works with Xeebo? It will work with the default Confluence skin but I'm not sure which others have support.

I've not tried the settings on the Joggler yet but I tried it on Apple TV2. Unfortunately, although it should reduce the load on the ATV2 hardware, it is very buggy at present (on the ATV2 that is). It causes lots of flickering on the XBMC user interface. I'm hoping for better with the Joggler.
it seems to be fine with xeebo, ive been running it for some days now.
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truxntrax wrote:Hi all, using latest joli Os. Anyone else found that the tvcatchup plugin for xbmc isn't working anymore? Can anyone else test please. Many thanks
You've probably found this out yourself but the TVcatchup plugin for XBMC now works again. Development work by the TVcatchup team was to blame for the temporary loss of this excellent service. It's the only way I can watch Film4+1 since they took it off Freeview.
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Hi, i am having problems with xbmc running too slow to crawl via the ubuntu image (great build thanks).I mainly use it to listen to music in the kitchen streamed from a hdd/acer revo in the living room.
I am not sure what to try, would another build be quicker, mint, joli etc, trying to tinker with the trip points ( a bit scared here ) ,trying the xbmc live image for joggler, bearing in mind i use wireless.Try another memory stick .
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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try xbmc on the windows 2003 build,

its running real nice here with no slowdowns or lags :)
Fullscreen squeezeplay windows, server 2003, foshiz mini v1 and v2, (and a few broken builds) :P so far.....
more to come!!

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Cheers for that will give it a try and report back:-)
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be sure to read through the thread a little
Fullscreen squeezeplay windows, server 2003, foshiz mini v1 and v2, (and a few broken builds) :P so far.....
more to come!!

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hawsey wrote:Hi, i am having problems with xbmc running too slow to crawl via the ubuntu image (great build thanks).I mainly use it to listen to music in the kitchen streamed from a hdd/acer revo in the living room.
I am not sure what to try, would another build be quicker, mint, joli etc, trying to tinker with the trip points ( a bit scared here ) ,trying the xbmc live image for joggler, bearing in mind i use wireless.Try another memory stick .
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
did you change your joggler throttle temp ? if not, you just can't do a lot with the joggler really, (at least on linux) unless you want it running slow the whole time :) (or you put a better heatsink in it). I run xbmc on ubuntu/jolios, and it runs very nicely.
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