**BUILD 3 - Windows XP Professional SP3 (Plus Tablet PC)**

[danfoshizzle]

you could try minlogon

[Mevi]

Dan, I've not really dabbled much with XPe, as when my first few attempts to get it booting failed, I went back to concentrating on getting XPSP3 properly sorted. XPe is still next on the list.

[pete]

Yup running the "nohub" EFI on all four of them....so they are somewhat similiar.....

It was just on a lark today that I decided to run the modded MCE2005 screen savers. Really not an issue.

Before that I was just running the picture screen saver with local on the USB stick copied pictures. It would stall after a day or two but not lock up the computer.

I've been also streaming internet audio via VLC, running the screen saver (standard XP) and an additional bit of flash (another clock)....so I am kind of pushing a touch.

Mev, BTW, the aquarium isn't slo mo any more with the addition paging memory and shutting off some more services. It still freezes though after a bit.

[pete]

I guess its just relaxing to watch fish swim around in a virtual aquarium.

I did see an animal movie a couple of nights ago called "Red Dog" and another animal movie last night (fish story). They were both very relaxing and enjoyable movies.

I need to label what build is what. Dan's first build going to the Aquarium screen saver didn't lock up and brought me back to the desktop. Nothing else running right now on the 4 of them.

I'm going to label them I guess with little post it notes; it'll be easier.

Lets see.

Just looking at the system properties. If I am wrong let me know. Need a couple of more Jogglers though...

1 - TinyXP Rev09(5) - Manufactured and supported by: eXPerience. - first build by Dan (guess eh?) - doesn't lock up with Aquarium SCR.
2 - Microsoft Windows XP - Tablet PC Edition 2005 - Version 2002 - Service pack 3 - last build by Mevi (guess). Locks up
3 - TinyXP Rev09(1) - Manufactured and supported by: eXPerience - Dans? (don't recall anymore) - Locks up.
4 - Microsoft Windows XP - Tablet PC Edition 2005 - Version 2002 - Service pack 3 - last build by Mevi (guess). Locks up

Two are the same; sorry changed your first build Mevi (big icons) to your second build.

Commonality with all of them now is the no hub EFI, BGInfo and a paging file of 1024. I've only started to remove services from #2 because it is on my desk right now. Two are running at Gb speed and two at Mb speed connected NIC cards.

[danfoshizzle]

Yeah all rev 09 XP would be my builds, mevi uses a newer edition of tinyxp

[pete]

I quite playing for a bit.

I like the tablet pieces with calibration et al.

Still have yet to do my Christmas Cards..

found a screen saver called flurry...very calming...not fish though...relaxing to watch. It doesn't lock up any of the Jogglers...

[Mevi]

Mine are tiny xp rev 11 based, aside from the tablet components that are from mce2005. The upcoming build 3 is the same components with a few differences with regard to tablet components at boot which knock about 20 seconds off the boot time. I still don't have my SSD from Hong Kong, so my tests so far are only on hdd and flash stick.

I'm holding off releasing it for a fix for the audio drivers, if I can.

The fix for the page file is switching back to the USBoot services handling the pagefile instead of my alternate disk driver. For those who want to test it out, go to c:\USBoot and type "USBoot phase-0" without the quotes, skip all the stages except for the one that has the prompt "a" to enable page file support. Select that option and reboot when prompted. If you have already changed to the disk mod driver, there is no benefit to doing this.

[hawsey]

@Mevi, i ordered a hp mce remote for my revo a while back, it took seven weeks by the time it came i had contacted the seller and got a refund! ! It came the next day .....

[Mevi]

Well I'll mention the missing Kingspec to the seller, perhaps I'll get a free SSD?.....

[verg0]

@Mevi, Are you still working on flashing the internal flash with XPe ?

[danfoshizzle]

Next on his agenda he said lol

[Mevi]

I've been using the internal flash to keep the EFI partition on. Thing is that the efi partition must be of a decent size, as a very small one does not boot. Strange. I also had problems deleting the partitions on the internal flash. They kept coming back and I had to write all zeros to the drive, which seems excessive. Has anyone else seen this behaviour?

[pete]

Literally here all of the PACRIM stuff has been mostly delayed; thinking holidays maybe?

On the Chumby (unrelated) the internal microSD OS partitions are duplicated like a Raid1 setup. Everything written to one partition is written the other. You don't see the partitions unless you remove the microSD and look at it.

Its a bit odd. Boot partition on the Chumby is using something that is totally difficult to read, 2nd partition and 3rd are duplicates and 4th is the RW storage partition. Original microSD was 2Gb. I switched to a 6Gb microSd card.

The tablet pieces are icing on the cake there Mevi!

It took a long time for my 2nd batch of USB SSD's to come. Wierd; first one came in only a few days; second set took more than 3 weeks.

Switched over to using Flurry scr; very relaxing to watch. Actually watching it kind of is indicatory on how fast or slow its running. No jitters right now with all four running Flurry.

I only have one of the USB SSD broken down and fitting inside of the Joggler. The other three are using them externally leaving the WLAN card inside disabled.

I went with the Lenova, tiny keyboards. With the newest generature with lite up keyboards; the older ones are being discounted sometimes as low as $20 USD. Its more of a kind of MCE remote than anything. The RF piece is barely bigger than the USB port.

I really though rarely utilize the keyboard these days; with VNC running; its just as easy to remote in and do stuff. Think I only initially utilized for some tweaking.

Both you and Dan are amazing with this stuff! I kind of knew that the Joggler was capable; but never would I have thought of seeing Windows running on the Joggler. The design is very similiar to the all glass Toshiba Picture frame. Cheapest picture frame design is that of the wireless Kodak frame with its cardboard covers.

The Chumby with its 4:3 display and all "plastic" framing gives it a cheaper quality. None the less the build inside of the Chumby is well done and very much labeled. There is even Easter eggs on the board itself. Like the Joggler its one board in the base. Whatever they did with the speakers gives it a big speaker quality such that music sounds nice. Additionally to the two USB ports in the back there is a side CF port which allows for flexibility. The drawback on the 8" Chumby though is its 800Mhz Arm CPU. The custom flash OS though speeds up stuff. Mostly though the OS runs from the cloud booting and download the control panel and the flash widgets; way different than the O2 OS. The Sony version of the 8" Chumby is somewhat cripled with the DRM stuff (netflix et al) and running only on a 500Mhz CPU Arm. The methodology of Choice for OS home automation stuff on the Chumby is using flash based controls and talking to and from a mothership for its variables using XAP. I have mine doing X windows and RDP; but its kind of slow none the less. Joggler is way faster.

But the Joggler is the "Cats Meow" of do whats and today even after a couple of years there is nothing similiar.

[danfoshizzle]

No other inexpensive tablet device has the capability of the joggler, multiple Linux distros, windows xp, android, and if me and mevi get our way it could run vista/7. love my joggler lol

[Mevi]

The Joggler with the problem NIC is like the ugly child kept locked in a cupboard, serving up movies across the network, although it's kinda really useful to now be qble to have 2 external USB directly connected. The captive cable works really well... Just a grommet to add to the rear to cover up where it emerges from the RJ45 socket.

I will at some point repack my ripped DVDs into single files. ISOs I couldn't get to play, but the VOBs stream fine with just a short pause of about 5 seconds to buffer. Joggler is connected to a 100Mb Sky router that I'm stuck with as Sky ban the use of 3rd party routers. 200Mb power line adapters around the house. I also installed Squeezebox Server on it, so it can also send music to the other more capable Joggler.

Both boot from HDD, but I expect that the cupboard Joggler will eventually run a leaner XP, probably Dan's build from a flash stick and serve media from an external drive connected to the XBOX360 HD-DVD drive. Then I can rip, store, stream from the same box.

[pete]

Today trying something a bit different.

As only one of the Jogglers has a USB SSD drive inside of it trying a external boot via a second USB SSD writing an image to the internal USB SSD to see what happens.

[Mevi]

I have been using Mini Tool's partition manager to play around with the internal flash sotrage from an external drive, so I think what you're doing will work just fine. In my tests anyway, the external port had boot preference. Maybe put something on the desktop so you can tell at a glance which is which after it boots.

Roobarb said that used with care, his reflash script could be modified to reflash a stick on the internal port, too.

I've had a nice message back from Hong Kong about my Kingspec. They are keen for me to be a happy customer and only ask that I first check with the local mail sorting office to see if it's there.

[Mevi]

The internal USB port doesn't deliver as many amps as the external one, one of my HDDs just chirps at me if I plug it in the inside port. I believe this is why my attempts to solder an extra port failed. I chose the wrong place to tap in.

[pete]

I'm assuming that the internal port with the WLAN card would at least deliver 500 mA of power. Playing here this morning I was able to boot from the external USB SSD once and did see the internal USB SSD such that I could write over it. Second boot though for whatever reason scrambed the external USB SSD. Starting over again. I actually have it plugged into an external hub with keyboard.

[Mevi]

Of the 3 external HDDs, (2 generic enclosures self assembled, 1 branded Samsung 1TB) only one requires a little extra juice. It works fine with a y-cable or when it's plugged into the external port. It's no biggie. I'm shopping for a 3rd Joggler as it won't be long before I break one of these.