Ubuntu 11.10 / Oneiric Ocelot and further development

[BuZz]

fell asleep while it was rsyncing the filesystem over last night. currently building the images and they should be ready in some mins. had to do a few more fixes too, such as a modification to the lightdm window manager package to remove an option we dont have in our older Xorg. I found a brightness indicator someone made too.

i may well do a bohdi linux update too, and try and fix the screen brightness app on that to work with the joggler.

next question: ubuntu with lxde or xfce next ?

[BuZz]

Get your freshly baked oneiric images, straight out of the oven!

http://joggler.exotica.org.uk/img/ubunt ... com.img.gz
http://joggler.exotica.org.uk/img/ubunt ... xt4.img.gz

[roobarb!]

Mmm, tasty!

[BuZz]

I have modified the florence package to disable gnome2 panel support, so it should work now on oneiric. you can apt-get install it as it is on the ppa now. let me know if anything doesnt work as it should. if it seems ok, ill stick the florence keyboard back, and xbmc/squeezeplay installer script and we are good to go.

[BuZz]

I think im going to do lubuntu (lxde) next with the lxlauncher - http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXLauncher - ive heard lxde is slimmer than xfce and the launcher looks like it will do the job.

[roobarb!]

I think im going to do lubuntu (lxde) next with the lxlauncher - http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXLauncher - ive heard lxde is slimmer than xfce and the launcher looks like it will do the job.

Sounds good - I run Lubuntu on my old Pentium 3 laptop and it's really smooth. The old thing can even use iPlayer now.

[BuZz]

finding unity2d just horrible to use, and the desktop feels pretty bloat. the new software manager is completely unsuitable for a small screen. ive decided now ive got florence keyboard working, im not going to install xbmc etc and just release it as is. noone in their right mind would use this on the joggler but as a "proof of concept", i suppose it was interesting to try.

[BuZz]

im part way with lubuntu now. looks like it will do quite ok from running it in virtualbox. one thing i realised though, is that there would be no "right click" emulation, as I was using the gnome mousetweaks stuff before. After hunting around I found a link to http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver ... d=d9001a6b which gives click emulation to the xorg evdev driver. This should be even better, and so I plan to backport that patch to our evdev and use that (if it isnt already in our version). it has a threshold value too, which could be useful, as the current mousetweaks stuff doesnt work all that well on the joggler screen, if you move slightly during the press. if it works out, ill apply this to all current images.

[anonyx]

im part way with lubuntu now. looks like it will do quite ok from running it in virtualbox. one thing i realised though, is that there would be no "right click" emulation, as I was using the gnome mousetweaks stuff before. After hunting around I found a link to http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver ... d=d9001a6b which gives click emulation to the xorg evdev driver. This should be even better, and so I plan to backport that patch to our evdev and use that (if it isnt already in our version). it has a threshold value too, which could be useful, as the current mousetweaks stuff doesnt work all that well on the joggler screen, if you move slightly during the press. if it works out, ill apply this to all current images.

This sounds ideal for me, i need something lightweight for a backend to my xbmc car pc. One thing you might be able to help with though, any way at all you could impliment randr rotation inverted? I really need the screen to be flipped 180degrees and with my limited linux knowledge i've tried everything on google, modifying xorg, downloading randr and others, i cant get the bugger to flip screen and if you could impliment something like this i would be eternily greatful x

[BuZz]

edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for the string ALL/1/Port/4/General/Rotation and set it from 0 to 180

[anonyx]

sorry to now derail a little bit, but BUZZ, you bloody legend, 3 god damn weeks i've spent trying to get this to bloody do this, god dammit we're finally there!

[BuZz]

perhaps should have asked earlier, but I appreciate you were trying to solve the issue yourself. tis a good attitude to have

[BuZz]

I have some good news. I have successfully backported the button emulation patch. Took many hours and I had plenty of issues but it seems to be working now. The advantage of this over the gnome accessibility tool, is that it wont send a left click first, and you can set the movement threshold so if you are moving slightly you can still trigger it, but scrolling/moving windows still works as a left click. this also means that for example right click context menus in xbmc work nicely with a simple click+hold, and when using gnome etc it's much easier to do a right click. it of course is not gnome specific now, and should work with anything that runs under X.

I'd appreciate some testing/feedback - I can provide a jolios image with it enabled if anyone has some time to help. thanks.

[roobarb!]

I'd appreciate some testing/feedback - I can provide a jolios image with it enabled if anyone has some time to help. thanks.

Count me in!

[BuZz]

here we go

http://joggler.exotica.org.uk/img/jolio ... est.img.gz

config is at /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/99-buttonemulation.conf - the emulation is only turned on for the touchscreen, so external mice will be unaffected (another reason why it is more useful than gnome tool)

[edit] oh please note, this already has throttle temp set to 80c

[BuZz]

my latest xbmc build seems to crash though when playing or generating thumbnails for some videos. erk. i had better look into that.

[BuZz]

roobarb! - please could you also read http://www.jogglerwiki.com/forum/viewto ... 3736#p3736 and let me know if you have a similar issue when using wired connection? or if xbmc works fine for you on wireless and wired, or either or if you can cause a crash within a terminal on X by rsyncing a large file across. appreciate the help.

[BuZz]

while backporting the changes, i noticed a minor issue in the patch too. not all in vain

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/x ... 30497.html

(I can now add to my portfolio of a single line of code in the linux kernel to 2 lines in xorg! - yeh i know. hardly impressive )

[johnd]

Hey Buzz! whats your latest build for unbuntu be happy to test it! been using your build 'Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty) (Joggler Image v1.1 - 16/08/2011)' for sometime, be great to test out the latest and greatest

[BuZz]

latest ubuntu was above in post http://www.jogglerwiki.com/forum/viewto ... 3745#p3674 - but it is pretty horrible with unity (in my opinion, which is why im looking at doing lxde desktop). the jolios image above has new touchscreen right click emulation stuff you can try, and let me know how it works.