Windows 8.1 on the Joggler

[gegs]

I'm sure I read somewhere that Windows 8.1 could run on the Joggler (or might have been one of the other OpenPeak devices) but I can't find any details. Without asking anyone to post images that fall foul of licensing, can anybody give me any pointers on:

• if this is true
• how I'd go about running a licensed version of Windows 8.1 on the Joggler

**EDIT**: Here's the page where I saw it and it appears to have been written by pete: http://cocoontech.com/forums/blog/29/en ... r-playing/

[pete]

Yes Windows 8.1 it was made to work here first by one of our Joggler forum peers from a USB stick on the O2 Joggler with Seabios. It booted OK. After a bit it would quit working. (booting). Next test was using an SSD drive via a ZIF cable and the SeaBIOS mode. This was using Windows 8.1 preview customized lite release and it did work fine rebooting over and over again from the SSD drive.

There wasn't a lot of interest because it used a ZIF drive and the USB drive didn't work well , Buzz's Ubuntu works better.

That said here I use a touch screen software / SAPI TTS and its really the same whether it running on old MS CE (have that here too), XPe, 7e or Win8.1 Lite. It looks identical on all of the OS's (and you don't really see the OS). Current stock automation touchscreen build is XPe using a bulk purchase of embedded licenses used for some advertising company that went out of business a few years back. The always issue with Wintel though was that Realtek GB NIC and no battery. My little fix loads up some other driver, then the standard driver and I am good to go with it unless I power off the unit. I did put some big icons on the screen to load the broken drivers (almost broken) and regular drivers and it works for me. I also added Asix 100Mb USB NICs to a few of the Openframe / Joggler devices. Here is a picture of one with a Gb link running just fine.

Here after seeing it work I used a regular Windows 8.1 ISO DVD ROM build to put "fat" Windows 8.1 on the OpenPeak 1's using the ZIF connected 16Gb SSD drive. Kind of expensive license though for a Joggler. I did thin it out a bit letting it run for a few months. The drivers mostly installed themselves. There is kind of a fix that I use to utilize the Gb port on the Jogger. I load up the wrong Realteck driver and its says its up then disconnects itself. I then load the old drivers and it works fine.

Much faster Windows 8.1 lite is on the PipoX7 using a Baytrail CPU / 2Gb of RAM / 32Gb of MMC drive space.

how I'd go about running a licensed version of Windows 8.1 on the Joggler

Standard Windows 8.1 installation DVD ROM; follow the prompts. (too expensive)

I have settled a bit on using XPe builds as it quite fast on the Openframe 1's.

I did purchase a PiPo X7 to play with Windows 8.1 lite. This is a licensed version of Windows 8.1 lite. I was hoping to use that license for Joggler / Openpeak 1 device. Only thing is is that the EFI BIOS is really tweaked up a few notches and propietary. You think that the Joggler EFI was customized; well the PiPo X7 is much more customized. I also purchased an HP (new old stock) Windows 7 embedded terminal hoping to use that license; testing and it did now work for me. I do get it to boot for a few seconds.

I hear that you can purchase a Windows 8.1 32bit lite very reasonable priced these days. Way way less than $100 USD.

[hawsey]

I have a Seabiosed joggler for messing with Windows 8 but it never got very far lol , I remember trying to boot from usb stick and off a DVD Rom drive but although it looked promising for me it never fully booted up , I also dried booting Damm Small Linux off DVD but also it just hung in the end ... just messed about with it really .

[gegs]

I thought if there had been more success I'd have read about it in the forum. Just asking before I consider buying a Pipo X8 (which won't be for a while.)

[pete]

Yeah it takes forever to install from a DVD ROM and I only had limited success with my SSD USB sticks as mentioned.

It does install fine to the ZIF connected SSD PATA drive as also mentioned. (the ZIF SSD drive is connected to a 15CM ZIF cable and over the wireless stick - IE fits fine - other mods are more USB ports out the back) - I do not utilize the built in 1 or 2 Gb MMC for this stuff.

I had left it like this (W81) testing it for many months.

All in all though the older non lite version of Windows 8.1 was still too fat and I did thin it out.

The newest lite Windows 8.1 / embedded Windows 7 is way better.

I am currently testing Windows embedded 7 on a Atom Diamondville single core 270 running from a slow 4 GB DOM and it does just fine. Well the Joggler runs on an Atom Z520 HT CPU and does only OK with 512Mb of RAM.

I am also testing the Pipo X7 with the new Baytrail Atom (clocks over 2 Ghz) does very well with 2Gb of RAM and Windows 8.1 lite running at 32 bit. That said it runs Ubuntu 14.04 LTS at 64 bit way faster than Windows. I am though keeping it at Windows 8.1 lite for Kinect / SAPI / multitouch capacitance screen automation stuff. Thinking too the prices will drop and settle here for much less than $100 with the Windows 8.1 base license. The multiboot tablets with Android and Wintel are already there.

BTW I have over 20 OpenPeak devices now on my network doing all sorts of things in XPe and Linux and managed by the mothership just fine.

BTW today June, 2015 I have not found anything (literally) that I can replace the automation tablet top Jogglers with.

The wireless tablets uses here server well as portable wireless tablets but really wouldn't be considered or used as consoles for my automation. That said I use wireless but do not have automation dependencies on it.