Win 8.1 on joggler

[pete]

Very strange on the torrents. I originally downloaded the entire image in less than 1 hour hitting some really high speeds. I then seeded what I got and noticed that the seeding speeds were piss poor; IE: kibbles and bits where it would take days to download the entire file. I don't really know why.

I did get more space via new users signing up bringing my total to 3.5Gb (2.5 Gb free) which still isn't enough but allows for maybe 4 little zipped pieces instead of 3.

[mildenhall]

Torrent file available from message 26

[hawsey]

Thanks mildenhall, I did look :$
Cheers

[mickchip]

Just copied the install files to a usb stick to see if its possible to start the install on a standard joggler, ie efi mode
It does start but this is as far as I get after it erroring out.

[hawsey]

I am all set up ready to try this tonight but need a bit of advice please ;
i have one of the betting shop Jogglers as my volunteer / victim , in the settings it says firmware 8964 boardrev 2 id 25786 and Software 30291 ,
a few questions ,

will this version have ssh enabled ? or will i have to update first ?

Will the Joggler need plugged in to my Laptop (W7 ) via ethernet to do this or does it need connected to the internet ?

What do i need to type in to my computer to get in to the Joggler ? i can see lots of guides and Petes instructions look fine (cheers Pete) but i don't understand this first bit like "open a terminal" , what does that mean ?.

Hope someone is on line and can help me try this out

Going to write the W8.1 image to disc now

Ahh man alive !! i have parts 4 , 5 and 6 from Pete of the 8.1 image but had managed to get the torrent downloaded last night but when i try to extract it it says something silly like an extra 720 PB of space needed !! i tried moving the file , shutting down the torrent program Bitlord and even a full shutdown and re start and just the same , it wont extract lol
Back to the drawing board ....
Now there are no seeders, ha
Panick over , i tried 7 zip and its extracting ok now .

[dwl99]

I think "open a terminal" means using a program like Putty http://www.putty.org/ to telnet or ssh into the Joggler. But I haven't really been keeping up with this thread!

[hawsey]

Cheers , i downloaded that now , more reading required i think .Do you not fancy giving this a go then you can tell me how to do it he he he .

When i type in windows , Run , Cmd , Ipconfig i think i should see the ip address of the joggler but i dont , harumph .... Once i get that far i think i must use Putty to then get access to the Joggler.

[hawsey]

Well i got a little further , i downloaded Putty and if i tick the Telnet option and put in the jogglers ip address , it lets me in to a screen that says Atom login , i type in Joggler then it comes up with Password and if i try to type , nothing , so if i blind type Joggler i get incorrect password .

I now have Win 8.1 on one usb stick and on another the Coreboot / Seabios files so i am good to go once i get past the above issue ;
At least i feel i got somewhere in the end but not quite there .....

[dwl99]

is ssh enabled on this installation? For the ipconfig stuff, I think you would need to open a command prompt on Win8 on the joggler (Run & type cmd in the box). Forgive me if you know that already!

[hawsey]

Cheers , I am now able to get access using telnet, putty comes up with Atom once I put in my ip address, what do I do from here?
Is there any guides I should read? I think I'm almost there as my usb sticks are ready
I need baby instructions I think

[mickchip]

load putty on your PC, have it set to SSH, insert your jogglers IP address in putty (can be found by going to settings, network on your joggler)
hit connect in putty login joggler password joggler (this is the username & password I needed for my betting joggler off ebay)
if it is correct you should get a # prompt
plug the USB stick with the coreboot.rom file, into the Joggler, then in putty type the following.

# cd /mnt
# ls
# coreboot.rom
# modprobe fh
# dd if=/mnt/coreboot.rom of=/dev/fh count=1 bs=1024k
# reboot

Explanation: cd /mnt this is where your usb stick is mounted on the joggler
ls check that the coreboot.rom is on the stick in the root directory
coreboot.rom is what you should see after typing ls and pressing enter
type in the other commands (press enter after each one) to flash the bios and reboot.

[hawsey]

Thanks mickchip will try this later.

[hawsey]

I gave this a try without success , I could telnet but not ssh ,so I had a look about and found roobarbs ssh enabler script and that worked a treat so I can now get ssh access however it is failing at
cd/mnt: not found
I tried a few sticks with fat , fat 32 but it still says not found .
If I ignore the not found and type in #ls regardless I get a load of folders up , bin, efi lost+found etc
If I try # coreboot.rom at this point it just says not found .
I tried plugging the stick in as suggested above , also powering up with the USB stick in but all the same , not found .
Is it just something simple I am missing out ?
Getting there bit by bit I think .....

[pete]

Yup; here always have started with the base updated image for the Joggler before doing anything. It is your fall back in case you want to go back to the original (well updated firmware).

So before anything on a "new" or "refurbished" O2 Joggler I do the following:

1 - download reflashing tool here:
http://birdslikewires.co.uk/download/op ... 109.img.gz
2 - download openpeak firmware:
http://birdslikewires.co.uk/download/op ... eak.img.gz
http://birdslikewires.co.uk/download/op ... img.gz.md5
3 - put the new openpeak firmware on the update stick
4 - boot and rewrite whatever is on the Joggler with the above
5 - after doing this you are left with a Joggler that you can easily SSH to.
6 - I let the Joggler reboot while I have a network cable plugged in. I do not recommend doing this with a wireless connection.
7 - you can check the DHCP address on the Joggler and use that address
8 - I then go to another computer and SSH to the Joggler; username is joggler and password is joggler
9 - As previously mentioned I put the coreboot bios on any memory stick and plug that into the side of the Joggler
10 - It will be seen right away by the Joggler. Then you follow the directions as previously noted.

BTW - forgot to put back files # 1, 2 & 3 of the Windows 8.1 build on Dropbox. If still needed willl do that today.

[pete]

Mickchip,

Still while I do have text to speech working; its not the SAPI 5.4 that is included with Windows 8.1.

There is a bunch that I cannot do or update on the Windows 8.1. I did test all of the stuff to work fine though with the VM build; but it was larger.

Relating to the Samsung; found this one - SAMSUNG NP-Q1EX - saids its a 1.2Ghz. Will it work for me?

It doesn't have an Intel CPU but rather it has a VIA 1.2GHz Nano U2500.

The more I read about it the slower it is. It appears slower than the Intel CPU generation before it which was also a 1.2Ghz CPU (Intel).

This one: NP-Q1U/P01/SEA appears to have an Intel Intel Pentium ULV U1500 running at 1.33Ghz.

[hawsey]

After the lack of success i had with the software that came on this ex betting joggler i reflashed back to original O2 software with the blue icons using Roobarbs reflash tool so eventually i worked out i needed the ssh enabler script which worked , now i have ssh but it fails as above at cd/mnt not found .

Do you think i need to start again and do as you suggessted above or do you think i am just missing something ?
Thanks

[pete]

No.

Make sure the stick with the coreboot file is just a fat32 formatted stick. Put the stick in after you have booted into Roobarb's original O2 firmware.

My guess is that your USB stick is not FAT32 formatted. Use the older wintel HP USB stick formatting tool to format the stick or GParted in Linux to format the stick.

I made up a combo stick with the O2 EFI boot flash and the coreboot boot flash with an old 64 Mb flash stick.

This way you can go back with the coreboot bios to the O2 EFI bios easily. You should test this such that you can go back and forth with the different OS stuff.

[mickchip]

Hawsey

make sure you leave a space between cd & /mnt ie cd /mnt

Pete
I would steer clear of the first one but This one: NP-Q1U/P01/SEA appears to have an Intel Intel Pentium ULV U1500 running at 1.33Ghz. should be really good, I've wanted one for ages but they don't come up very often.

[pete]

Thanks Mickchip.

Yup seeing a bunch of the 600Mhz ones and the Via 1.2Ghz ones but only a few of the Intel 1.2Ghz ones. I am guessing the base hardware design for updating (memory and HD is the same eh?)

Not seeing any 800Mhz ones but have seen one 900Mhz celeron.

[mickchip]

Pete
the celeron ones are getting on abit, these were the first called just a Q1 the Q1 ultra is second generation and started in about 2008.
I have just sold a 600mhz one on ebay with 2gb ram 32gb SSD and win8, osx leopard and android ics installed, went for £70.00 about $100
and yes the 600mhz, 800mhz and the 1.3ghz ones are virtualy the same, I think the 1.3ghz came with 2gb as standard the others 1gb.
Be carefull when buying, there are all different specs, some have sdcard slot, cameras front & back, bluetooth and the base model has none.