Bit scary though!gegs wrote:@ilovemyjoggler -
Congratulations! I told you it wasn't rocket science.
PnP III v3.50: Enhance the standard OS - DOWNLOAD HERE!
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No doubt you are right - a fair few gadgets use the broadband so thinking about it, it's a wonder that the iplayer works at all! I'll let you know if it gets much worse but it wasn't too bad last night (of course it was late and I had double vision by then).offbeatdave wrote:The jerky playback is probably to do with connection speed. I can run 2 or 3 Jogglers without it being affected on a 6.5Meg connection, but they start to suffer if other stuff starts using the network. If it continues to be an issue let me know and I'll try and point you in the way of a possible fix (slightly lower quality but less likely to be jerky).
Ahhh. Ok, different to what I'm used to but makes perfect sense.offbeatdave wrote:Regarding the iPlayer bit, you have to type in what you are looking for by pressing the search bar. Pressing the channels just removes them from the search.
I am very grateful for all the help and advice from everyone on here. Cheers!
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Re: PnP III: Enhance the standard OS - Download & details he

Just started to tidy up and tweak an icon or two. The above icon is slightly tidier than the original one. If you want to change to the tweaked version, then Telnet into your joggler and type:
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cd /media/gforums/webserver/starter/joggler
mv joggler.png joggler.old
wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/77534245/joggler.png
killall tango
Edit: 20:58 23rd June 2012 - just tweaked a little more.
Last edited by offbeatdave on Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:32 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Hi. In case I want to add any changes to my joggler, what happens after you telnet in and add the codes? What should I expect to see and how long should it take? Sorry...but if offbeatdave keeps fiddling I will keep asking!
Re: PnP III: Enhance the standard OS - Download & details he
hi, great work .
but can someone tell me how to remove icons (all the email shortcuts) from the joggler. im not a coder so step by step would help .. can telnet in its the removal bit i cant do .. thanks .
but can someone tell me how to remove icons (all the email shortcuts) from the joggler. im not a coder so step by step would help .. can telnet in its the removal bit i cant do .. thanks .
Re: PnP III: Enhance the standard OS - Download & details he
I assume PnP III is much the same as PnP II in as much as if you want to remove an icon press and hold the icon you want to delete and after a couple of seconds you get the option to 'Move or Delete' 

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just hold press on them and select delete or remove.
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Re: PnP III: Enhance the standard OS - Download & details he
If it's icon tweaks your interested in, it'll take seconds and you'll just get a few lines in the telnet window as stuff downloads - it takes seconds as the icon files are tiny. The Joggler will 'restart tango' which means that it refreshes the desktop without rebooting completely.ilovemyjoggler wrote:Hi. In case I want to add any changes to my joggler, what happens after you telnet in and add the codes? What should I expect to see and how long should it take? Sorry...but if offbeatdave keeps fiddling I will keep asking!
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hi - thanks
I pressed and got remove or move . pressed on remove then confirmed but the icons remain . confused since as you say previously pre update - with o2 original this did work .
cant remove any of the email links/icons im afraid. have rebooted.
anything else i can try ? btw move function works.
I pressed and got remove or move . pressed on remove then confirmed but the icons remain . confused since as you say previously pre update - with o2 original this did work .
cant remove any of the email links/icons im afraid. have rebooted.
anything else i can try ? btw move function works.
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It's probably that I haven't set the permissions on some of the icon files.fred wrote:hi - thanks
I pressed and got remove or move . pressed on remove then confirmed but the icons remain . confused since as you say previously pre update - with o2 original this did work .
cant remove any of the email links/icons im afraid. have rebooted.
anything else i can try ?
As an alternative, if you're OK fiddling around via telnet try the following (once telnet-ed in):
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cd /media/appshop
cp applications.xml applications.xmlbackup
vi applications.xml
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dd
(Repeat as necessary.)
To save your changes and exit you need to press
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:x
To quit without saving your changes press
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:q!
You'll then need to restart the tango desktop either via the refresh icon, or by typing
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restart tango
If it goes pear-shaped, you should then be able to telnet back in and type:
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cd /media/appshop
rm -r applications.xml
cp applications.xmlbackup applications.xml
restart tango
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Well now offbeatdave, I think I can manage that! Thanks
Have been playing a little with my joggler tonight and a couple of things to mention:
Screen blacking out is happening again but only after I launched Lounge Radio app and thinking back, the blacking out last night whilst watching the iplayer happened AFTER I launched the said radio app. Not a problem for me as I can use the radio on squeezeplay instead but thought you might want to know. Blacking out disappears once I power off and on from mains.
Would it be possible/compatible for any other tv apps to be added to PNP such as TVcatch up, itv player or 4OD. I know, only been here 5 mins and already asking for more!
Finally, the PNP has made me feel like a techno thickie. I had never heard of sqeezeplay or squeezebox and will be posting for tips in using this elsewhere in the forum. But what is connect and play and how do you use it?
Many thanks again!
Have been playing a little with my joggler tonight and a couple of things to mention:
Screen blacking out is happening again but only after I launched Lounge Radio app and thinking back, the blacking out last night whilst watching the iplayer happened AFTER I launched the said radio app. Not a problem for me as I can use the radio on squeezeplay instead but thought you might want to know. Blacking out disappears once I power off and on from mains.
Would it be possible/compatible for any other tv apps to be added to PNP such as TVcatch up, itv player or 4OD. I know, only been here 5 mins and already asking for more!
Finally, the PNP has made me feel like a techno thickie. I had never heard of sqeezeplay or squeezebox and will be posting for tips in using this elsewhere in the forum. But what is connect and play and how do you use it?
Many thanks again!
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thanks a lot dave, i will give this a try .. im ok with telnet-ting in . by the way i have to thank you and everyone for pnp just fantastic .offbeatdave wrote:It's probably that I haven't set the permissions on some of the icon files.fred wrote:hi - thanks
I pressed and got remove or move . pressed on remove then confirmed but the icons remain . confused since as you say previously pre update - with o2 original this did work .
cant remove any of the email links/icons im afraid. have rebooted.
anything else i can try ?
As an alternative, if you're OK fiddling around via telnet try the following (once telnet-ed in):
edit: YES that worked! Thank You!
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Update icons to tidier versions - Instructions
Updated 1st July 2012 (17:56)
(Hopefully these should be in PnP III v3.041 as of now)
I'm gradually working through the icons, just tidying up the rough edges (literally!). To update to the neatest versions, telnet in and type:
The current icons will download and the Joggler desktop will refresh. You'll hardly notice any difference, but I'm more satisfied with them! The borders aren't so prominent when displayed on the Joggler screen. I'll get them in the PnP download eventually.
Icons tidied up so far:
(23rd June 2012)











(30th June 2012)






(1st July 2012)




(Hopefully these should be in PnP III v3.041 as of now)
I'm gradually working through the icons, just tidying up the rough edges (literally!). To update to the neatest versions, telnet in and type:
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wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/77534245/updateicons.sh
sh ./updateicons.sh
rm -r updateicons.sh
Icons tidied up so far:
(23rd June 2012)











(30th June 2012)






(1st July 2012)




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Finally 'completed' PnP III Apr '15!
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Tinkering with Jogglers since Feb '10 thanks to PMJ, Jogtools, PnP & sqpOS;
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Re: PnP III: Enhance the standard OS - Download & details he
Hmm. I'm not sure what causes this but I will try and recreate this issue when I get time.Screen blacking out is happening again but only after I launched Lounge Radio app and thinking back, the blacking out last night whilst watching the iplayer happened AFTER I launched the said radio app. Not a problem for me as I can use the radio on squeezeplay instead but thought you might want to know. Blacking out disappears once I power off and on from mains.
I'm afraid not. The as the feeds are delivered in flash format. The other TV services don't deliver their feeds in a Joggler compatible format.Would it be possible/compatible for any other tv apps to be added to PNP such as TVcatch up, itv player or 4OD
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Gave something back Feb '12 to Apr '14 with PnP Mk II & PnP III;
Finally 'completed' PnP III Apr '15!
Jogglering since Dec '09;
Tinkering with Jogglers since Feb '10 thanks to PMJ, Jogtools, PnP & sqpOS;
Gave something back Feb '12 to Apr '14 with PnP Mk II & PnP III;
Finally 'completed' PnP III Apr '15!
Re: Update icons to tidier versions - Instructions
Nice one offbeatdave, the icons do indeed now look much neater. Thanksoffbeatdave wrote:Updated 23rd June 2012 (23:17)
I'm gradually working through the icons, just tidying up the rough edges (literally!). To update to the neatest versions, telnet in and type:
The current icons will download and the Joggler desktop will refresh. You'll hardly notice any difference, but I'm more satisfied with them! The borders aren't so prominent when displayed on the Joggler screen. I'll get them in the PnP download eventually.Code: Select all
wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/77534245/updateicons.sh sh ./updateicons.sh rm -r updateicons.sh
Icons tidied up so far:
(23rd June 2012)

Edit: Why is the radio icon the same as the calculator icon?
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Re: Update icons to tidier versions - Instructions
Oops - will fix this now!stephen m wrote:
Edit: Why is the radio icon the same as the calculator icon?
Edit: Hmm. It shouldn't be as I've just run it on one of mine with no problems. Which icon is shown for both apps?
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Gave something back Feb '12 to Apr '14 with PnP Mk II & PnP III;
Finally 'completed' PnP III Apr '15!
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Tinkering with Jogglers since Feb '10 thanks to PMJ, Jogtools, PnP & sqpOS;
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is it possible to get presstv feed they have flash and windows media options .. ?
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Sorry, no idea personally as I didn't (and couldn't) engineer the iPlayer/You Tube apps. There may be a clever person around these parts who can give you a definitive answer though.fred wrote:is it possible to get presstv feed they have flash and windows media options .. ?
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Tinkering with Jogglers since Feb '10 thanks to PMJ, Jogtools, PnP & sqpOS;
Gave something back Feb '12 to Apr '14 with PnP Mk II & PnP III;
Finally 'completed' PnP III Apr '15!
Jogglering since Dec '09;
Tinkering with Jogglers since Feb '10 thanks to PMJ, Jogtools, PnP & sqpOS;
Gave something back Feb '12 to Apr '14 with PnP Mk II & PnP III;
Finally 'completed' PnP III Apr '15!
Re: Update icons to tidier versions - Instructions
The calculator icon is used for both radio and calculatoroffbeatdave wrote:Oops - will fix this now!stephen m wrote:
Edit: Why is the radio icon the same as the calculator icon?
Edit: Hmm. It shouldn't be as I've just run it on one of mine with no problems. Which icon is shown for both apps?
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Re: Update icons to tidier versions - Instructions
Very odd indeed! Telnet in and try the following:stephen m wrote:
The calculator icon is used for both radio and calculator
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cd /openpeak/gui/apps/o2_radio
wget -O icon.swf http://dl.dropbox.com/u/77534245/radio.png
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Tinkering with Jogglers since Feb '10 thanks to PMJ, Jogtools, PnP & sqpOS;
Gave something back Feb '12 to Apr '14 with PnP Mk II & PnP III;
Finally 'completed' PnP III Apr '15!
Jogglering since Dec '09;
Tinkering with Jogglers since Feb '10 thanks to PMJ, Jogtools, PnP & sqpOS;
Gave something back Feb '12 to Apr '14 with PnP Mk II & PnP III;
Finally 'completed' PnP III Apr '15!