O2 Joggler Forum

Hi there. Apologies if this is already explained in another forum but I haven't seen it from extensive browsing.

I was really amazed that squeezeplayos was allowed to be installed on the internal memory. That is a great achievement. But I don't use squeezeplay and instead want to create my own set up.

I don't know it is best to

1. use the ubuntu base distro from

http://joggler.exotica.org.uk/ubuntu/

resize the partition to 1gb and install some programs

not sure how easy/is it possible to then to zip this up and then flash it using the birdslikewires reflashing tool and also how much space there would be after installing lbuntu graphic interface

2. use the squeezeplayos and somehow get to terminal and uninstall squeezeplay and install things i want from scratch

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What I am wanting to install is the linux spotify app as I believe that to use spotify on squeezeplay you need to be a premium customer and i'm a tight-fisted git (hence hacking a £50 pc called a joggler!) and really like the radio feature on the linux app which streams similar music to an artist in 160k which is not bad when you connect it to a decent hifi via a usb external sound card with optical output (I think the radio feature is unlimited even for free customers - i might be wrong - i only recently discovered it!)

i think spotify can also play local files too - and could get an app for my phone to control it - but otherwise i would be tempted to also install vlc as can control that using my android phone and can then plug play files from my phone over wifi or external hard drive connected to joggler and control it from another location (The joggler would just be plugged in next to my hifi)



which of the two methods above is most feasible? i am basically trying to fork your operating systems and want to keep all the wonderful hard work you've done in terms of drivers particularly external sound cards etc

samba sharing and ps3 media server would be nice ideas too - i believe the joggler has a gigabit ethernet but my current ps3 media server is only 10/100 so that would be great to do.

I hope this makes sense! I would be happy to share spotifyos with others after it's all done!
i guess i could do this all using an external usb flash drive and a hub but i love the intellectual challenge of keeping costs down to a minimum. after all the joggler only cost £50 so why spend another £5-10 on an external drive? i guess it's a bit geeky but there's something appealing about getting a whizz-bang system from a very cheap price - can show off to your friends who have wasted £100s of pounds on apple products!

Found an android app (also available as a generic web app for other mobiles) that controls the linux version of Spotify Free!!

https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... tcommander
http://code.google.com/p/spotcommander/

So will try and get something up but probably just on external USB

My internal version of squeezeos no longer boots anyhow which probably echoes what people have said about internal flash being like cornflakes/poo!

I don't think using SqPOS will work as there's no GUI/window manager installed.

Just a thought buy I occasionally use Spotify free on my PC using a piece of software called DSbridge. This essentially streams what's playing in Spotify on the PC as a streaming radio station. I have this saved as a favourite in squeezeplay. If you could edit the stations I suppose you could even use the default radio app in PNP/stock OS. It works really well, Spotify plays on the PC unless you connect to the radio stream, then PC playback mutes automatically, you even get track information on the squeezeplay screen.

Thanks Jimbo. That's a very interesting idea - though one I wouldn't want to use for this purpose as one reason I got my joggler was a low power pc rather than having so many machines on doing so much!

But I didn't know you could do that and has a lot of applications in the future e.g. streaming music to multiple rooms in a house without using a dodgy fm transmitter (wonder what the time lag is?)

Interestingly looks like spotify will be launching a browser version soon - negating the need for a linux app!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/n ... rsion.html

I don't know if it is possible to fit a browser-operating system on internal memory for joggler. I have used a very small distro for another pc before called browseros which is as it says, just a browser! 93mb big!!! so thought it would be possible...

http://www.browserlinux.com/

Yes DSBridge is pretty cool. I've had it working with other programs too not just spotify, including iTunes and Winamp (its basically a case of dropping some files in the applications folder in program files)

There is as you rightly point out a slight delay, mainly a buffering type thing but its only a couple of seconds. With iTunes its almost like my old Roku Soundbridge became an airplay device. (Squeezeplay OS actually has an option to install Shairplay to function as a proper Airplay device anyway)

Another thought, do you use Wifi at all on your Joggler, you mentioned Gigabit Ethernet so I guess not. While the ideal is not paying for a USB stick did you know you can replace the internal WiFi card with a USB stick and it will happily boot from it (The internal WiFi is actually a USB device, theres a USB socket inside on the motherboard) You may need to remove the casing of your stick for it to fit and it does mean booting other Sticks is a bit tricky but does make for a very neat fully featured installation without worrying about fitting it all in internal memory. Actually I'm not sure what boot order would be used, I've always presumed the USB stick internally would have priority but I've never tried inserting another USB with an OS on it to test it.