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Very negative experience with a Joggler

Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 9:16 pm
by VanZan
I bought one of these back in 2012 and was very disappointed with it. I noticed that it would freeze regularly. After a short period of use when it didn't freeze it would become slow and need a reboot. Also it was slow and the touchscreen wasn't the best.

Yet this forum is still going strong with talented people like exobuzz using them. I just can't understand it....I wonder could I have been unlucky and gotten some sort of defective model perhaps? I notice that there's a Xubuntu version for it now....are people mainly just using it for Kodi?

I might get another one and have another try as I don't like being beaten! :D

:edit: I remember now!! I tried the PNP enhancement/OS by "offbeatdave". Still the user experience, probably due to the limitations of the hardware, was pretty rubbish.

Re: Very negative experience with a Joggler

Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 9:31 pm
by dwl99
exobuzz - now that's going back!

Re: Very negative experience with a Joggler

Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 10:27 pm
by VanZan
Oh sorry! His nom de plume here is "Buzz". Anyway I wanted to make clear I'm not trolling or trying to cause trouble. I just can't understand why I found mine unusable yet so many others here are happy. Usually that means I'm a dummy who messed up somehow.

Re: Very negative experience with a Joggler

Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 2:08 am
by BuZz
The freezing is probably due to the Joggler getting warm and the CPU throttling. On Xubuntu I use 80c or so as a throttle point and the system is far more responsive. Also a fast USB stick is required or the system can seem slow.

The touchscreen isn't very good - that's true, but with Kodi and re-touched skin, or squeezeplay the Joggler is quite functional. I tend to use them mostly for music/video playback.

Re: Very negative experience with a Joggler

Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 8:47 am
by hawsey
Yep VanZan the Joggler screen is the worst bit but under an os designed for this type of screen it works fine I.e PNPIII or Squeezeplay OS ( which a lot of people use their Jogglers for as music streamers around the house ) , then the screen is fine :-)
I use BuZz's latest Xubuntu builds with Kodi now and the first thing I do is get the best usb 2 stick I can and as soon as I put the image on the stick , I set the thermal PSV to 80 as BuZz suggested , this stops the slowdowns you mentioned ; then I tend to use a mini keyboard and mouse to set things up how I want them before I use Kodi on just touchscreen .
If you want to use a full blown os I'm afraid the keyboard an mouse option is the best , there was something called the Unity interface on Ubuntu which made things more touchscreen friendly but I've not heard of that for a while .
Definitely without the thermal psv80 thing done I felt the same as you and now I do this first time before using Xununtu .

Re: Very negative experience with a Joggler

Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 12:14 pm
by pete
You can also have a hardware problem relating to a loosy goosy cable inside if it is freezing on it's own.

Another issue I have seen is the base boot OS chip or MMC chip starts to get trashed after too many RW's. The base boot chip can be replaced with a new one. You can utilize a USB stick / SSD card to replace the MMC stuff. Today all of mine are booting from ZIF connected SSD drives and not really using the built in MMC.

I have seen on a couple of occasions the LCD connections coming off which would do odd stuff to my Jogglers.

Relating to just video you can today plug in a Broadcom Crystal HD mini pcie card in to a Openpeak 2 and stream 1080 live TV just fine.

The Openpeak 1 & 2's are the big brothers to the Openpeak Joggler's. The Openpeak 1 has built a built in DECT for VOIP and Zigbee chip for automation in addition to what the Joggler has. The Openpeak 2 has DECT, Zigbee, WLAN and Bluetooth built in. Plus you can solder on a microSD slot such that you can boot from that instead of the soldered on MMC.