O2 Joggler Forum

NP Hardz, happy to help.

Hello,

I first like to apologise for jumping in mid discussion but I have a question that is not quite on topic but this seems like the right place to ask. Has anyone run iTunes on this XP build and if so how does it perform? I ask as I would like to use the Joggler as an iTunes server in my home set up and the Joggler would fit in perfectly with my set-up. I have an 2 apple TV's and an Airport Express and if iTunes can run on the Joggler it not only becomes a home server for these items but also another Airplay outstation if I attach a set of speakers attached, I would normally use my laptop to server these but I would love to have a permanent arrangement for this. Unfortunately I sold my Joggler over year ago so I have no means of testing this but would love to know if it's possible and any answers on this are gratefully received.

Thanks

Steve

No problem, Steve. It's a relevant question and one that I mean to test at some point anyway. I have an itunes account so I'll install iTunes and download my purchases and suchlike to my Joggler media server. Like you, it'll free up a laptop.

Build 3 is already set up as a TVersity media server which works really well and it's probably not asking too much of the Joggler to keep TVersity for movies and set it up to be an iTunes server for music. I'll have a go over the weekend and let you know.

Thanks for your reply and for testing this for me.

I had never heard of TVersity until you mentioned it in your reply and after checking it out I'm more than ready to buy another Joggler, genuinely getting excited about this!

I had always loved the Joggler but it just stopped getting used so I ended up selling it on eBay, looks like it's time to get back on there and get one and with this much potential it might be hard to stop at one!!

To think my Airport Express cost more than a Joggler and offers less than half the functions.

Thanks again and keep up the good work.

It's the free version of TVersity, so it doesn't transcode on the fly for iPad, I think. Not that you'd have any fun getting the Atom to transcode in realtime. I have MPEG2 DVD rips that stream over the network FROM the Joggler. I've yet to set one of them up as a media player at home, but so far they make great pocket sized servers.

There's a thread on the forum for setting up a Ubuntu Joggler to be a PVR. How awesome is that?

Did you have any luck with the joggler over the weekend Mevi?

I forgot over the weekend, but set it up today.

I needed to update iTunes to the current version on both the Joggler AND my laptop, but once I had done that, the shared libraries appeared on both machines and were playable.

EDIT: It also works on my iPhone when that was set up for Home Sharing.

One thing to be aware of, the Joggler's native screen res is too small to click 'accept' on the first launch screen - iTunes also displays a popup warning about the screen res. You may get past that point by ALT+A or SPACE. If you are controlling the Joggler over VNC, then you can change the screen res to 1024x768 until you have everything set up, before switching back to 800x480 (you'll need to go into the advanced display adaptor settings to switch it back).

TVersity and iTunes work side by side with no issues, so devices that support UPNP can also see the same media & album artwork.

Added to post #1 is instruction and registry files to disable and enable the internal speakers. The low level fizz is no longer present. Thanks go to Delko on the Hi-PDA forum for coming up with the new driver which I used to make the registry fix for this build.

Hi guys,

Ive run into a problem, I've had an XP build running fine on a scruzer memory card for a while and thought id move the image over to a 8GB micro SD card wince it was a smaller physical footprint. Problem is, it wont boot of the micro SD card?

try a full clone with win32 disk imager, should be fine

thanks for the tip dan, I tried that but unfortunately it still boots into the O2 OS

Via Windows try the MiniTool partition manager. I'm trying this right now on a G3 8 Gb memory stick.

You can download the MiniTool partition manager here:

http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-par ... nager.html

1 - copy the image to the 8Gb stick.
2 - Look at the USB stick with MiniTools partition manager; you will see it similiar to above picture.
2 - Expand the NTFS partition to the rest of the 8Gb stick.
2 - Exit out of mini tools and you should only see the FAT partition. Make sure all of the EFI stuff is there.

You can do the same with GParted in Linux.

If it still doesn't boot, delete the fat partition and create a new one; then just copy all of the EFI files to it. I've attached a ZIP that has them all.

The 2nd partition must be an active primary ntfs partition in order to work. Also the 1st partition cannot be too small. The EFI bootloader is very particular. A disk cloning tool like Pete linked to is the best way to ensure the partitions copy across correctly.

The Joggler booting straight into O2 suggests that the EFI bootloader either isn't seeing an active partition, or the bootloader isn't even running. A bit more info about what you see on the screen might help us narrow things down. Are you using a USB hub, or a hub with a card reader or similar? The bootloader is fussy about hubs - so much so that you'd need a different set of EFI files if you do. Moving the boot device to a different port on the hub is known to help.

Thanks guys!

Pete - I tried redoing the microSD card using the tool you suggested, still didnt work! :/

Mevi - The partitions look fine, when the joggle boots up, the O2 logo sits there for about 3-40 secs then there is a quick white flash and then the blue O2 logo comes up.


Im wondering if its the microSD adaptor im using? its just a cheap one of ebay. The microSD card is a class 10 8GB

Maybee the adapter is micro sd and not sdhc ? Is it the same one you are using in the pc

I had the same thought, whether the USB adapter you are booting from is the same one you write the micro SD card with.

The boot process is hidden by default on Build 3..... I did that thinking that it's better looking than a screen of scrolling text, but it's a pain in the bum for when things don't go well and we need to troubleshoot.
Unzip these files into the EFI partition and you'll see the whole boot process if it starts at all. If it fails, you'll see where it stops. Sometimes not seeing the active partition will cause the bootloader to stall and then boot the O2 OS. Using a hub and just using a different port to one that you've used before can have the exact same result!

Its the same adaptor used on the PC to write the image.

I had to use a hub to get anything on screen, this is how far it got before it went into the O2 OS:

Hmmmm. So you mean the boot doesn't start when the microSD & adapter are plugged directly into the Joggler? (the WITHHUB files are just a later version of the bootloader that supports hubs as well as plugging in directly. It takes much longer to boot, hence the option to use the older, but quicker NOHUB bootloader)

The 'not recognised' error is likely related to the hub and you might have luck when trying the adapter in every port on the hub. Some people have said that some hubs just don't work with this XP EFI bootloader.

Yeah, the pictured error looks like what I see sometimes using a hub. Try it without a hub and just let it find stuff and utilize touch for acks?

Thanks again for this build Mevi ,i have been using this with touch screen for a while now but since i got my cheap tablet keyboard i thought i would try a new build with a usb hub ; i have tried both methods in the instructions but to no avail, i get the same sort of error as in the above post .
The hub works fine with android, mint, xubuntu etc, it also boots fine with no hub.
Any ideas

Happy Joggling
FYI

Managed to work this one out ; with trial and error ( mainly error methinks ) using a Wilkinsons Trust usb hub with the usb stick in the last port , the one furthest away from the cable , and the keyboard in the first port , all is now ok
Tried this out on Dan's xp 2003 build and this behaviour is exactly the same

Cheers