O2 Joggler Forum

It's very quick and resulted in something that's pretty close to identical in both disk images.

Have figured out why my images are referring to 3 pci devices, i think it may be the jogglers internal memory,

Whoa joggled memory...lol

LMAO pete,

Looking into the way that windows works a little more tonight, and how my images can be improved.

There's a new kid on the block(Mevi) and i need to catch up lol

Is that why you're still awake at 4am? I hope you're not losing any sleep.

I'm looking forward to hearing what you discover - so many mysteries in that little black box.

there really is, And I am awake that time of day due to a touch of insomnia lol

No coffee after 5pm.

I once disabled the pcie bus to see what disappeared and I can't remember if the mmc vanished along with the sound and nic. I note that there are 2 ZIF connectors on the board at opposite corners. Does anyone know what the second one is? Could it be for a pcie expansion? I have an external pcie docking station which I've already had in pieces before. I'll rip it open later and look inside as I think there was a daughterboard.

I've had some luck finding bios roms that are from very similar variations on this poulsbo chipset. I'll try to get hold of some spare bios chips and see if any of them flash and boot the Joggler. Seems hot swapping the efi chip after boot up and flashing from Linux is the way to go, as this is one way to recover a bricked Joggler.

Dan, you are way too young to get insomnia.....lol

no not too young, thanks to all the coffee I drink, but nothing hits the spot like a nice mug of coffee

I do only one cup of coffee a day.

It's really not a cup though; its more of a mug (4 cups or so) and I make the coffee in the morning at about 1.5 tablespoons of ground coffee to one cup of water. There was a time though that I would just grind my coffee beans and use a french press; best coffee; too time consuming to make. I do remember too my x mother in law had a coffee shop in northern France (it was more a combo coffee shop, bed and breakfast plus bar thing in the mountains). I would get up at 4 AM there and make my coffee with the expresso "machine"; liked the coffee.

I have though sat in local town meetings which are at typically at night and go for sometimes 3-4 hours and have fallen asleep in a sitting position; unless I happen to be concurrently surfing the web on the phone or tablet....which is impolite though.

strong, two sugars, and a touch of cream for me.

Mevi I have tried numerous bios images on the joggler but not one would even try to boot

wow you guys have gone a lot deeper into this than I'd realised lol

Yeh tried loads cause I wanted windows on the joggler bet since you posted your imagei've not bothered.
I think even if you tried a bios from something with exactly the same hardware it would not work unless the board had exactly the same layout.

i know that the other openpeak devices utilise similiar systems, but not too sure how they do it.

The trouble is that the joggler efi doesnt have ide drivers built in, so you can't boot directly off the pata port.
When you load linux through grub you can because the kernel or the initrd.image has drivers and sees the port before it boots.

could you not use a modified grub to boot windows?

I know grub can boot windows but maybe an edited one could load the nt kernel?

Aw, look at those poor abandoned chips. :'(

I'm still trying to get my head around a slightly convoluted way of using the efi grub from one of the ubuntu images, chain loading to legacy grub with a bios payload, then be able to use any bios compatible OS from there without modification. Mostly the work around is to use a modified ntldr with the bios calls hard coded, like in XOM and XOJ.
It gets us a working windows, but it still requires a certain amount of patching. I might be really barking up the wrong tree. This is my first pure EFI system, but luckily others have had a few years to work on this ahead of me and I am just repurposing their ideas.

Coming back to the coffee subject, I got one of these for my birthday.

http://aerobie.com/products/aeropress.htm

Now making a proper coffee is no longer a chore. Highly recommended!!

Thank-you Mevi!