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What are the noted upgrades/changes in the new Intel Video driver package?

I did one of those racecourse days once, managed to break a porsche

basically better video playback and better youtube support, nothing majorly upgraded with people sayiong that the older version from june is better, the june version is the one we currently use so happy to stick with it.

You kind of wonder why they give you the opportunity at these test drives if you can't push a car to its limits eh? lol

My favorite all time convertible is a 1978 Porsche turbo Carrera. (with a good roll bar of course!). Rarely see them around these days....

I am kind of thinking we have an earlier HW version of the Intel Video in the Joggler.

A day away from the forum and a whole page of reading just on this thread! I'll stick all my replies into one big one!

pete_c wrote:The three will need a promotion manager soon as fans will be clobbering each other to get their autographs.

We're just putting the finishing touches to our fan club application forms.

danfoshizzle wrote:OK my new graphics drivers are not good lol, getting windows stuttering to a stop lol

Yeah, I know. I could make no sense of the driver tool. Is the new version any more user friendly?

danfoshizzle wrote:Oh and mevi, 8 runs on this:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/22/inst ... reason-to/

I keep seeing stuff about the Shift. Is it x86 based? something that has passed me by. I don't remember ever seeing that over here. Gives me hope anyway. The developer preview install, written to USB as I've done for W7 on the netbook, access light flickers, but no life. It does have a whole lot of EFI boot stuff in the ISO, but I think it confirms that it's not 32bit EFI compatible. Hope not.

manxam wrote:Mevi, I'm really curious to see how you make out with the XP EWF.. If they have EWF working then I have a chance of getting XPe's HORM working!

It's a real pig downloading from China. 98% before failing. I managed to get another build from there that (once I have converted from a .gho) I'll be finding my way around IN CHINESE. Uses standard XOJ, but not sure of the rest of it yet. I'll keep trying for the EWF build.

danfoshizzle wrote:I did one of those racecourse days once, managed to break a porsche

I did a trackday in a Formula 3 car. Was a 30th birthday present. I stalled it first attempt.

The w2003 image that I successfully downloaded was a bare bones install. Aside from an attractive screensaver, it was very basic. The one thing that stood out was that the boot up scrolling text was hidden. They had done it like this:

Fs0:xoj-ntldr > fs0:\0.txt

Just like in MSDOS syntax, the output of the EFI is being sent to a text file. Makes for a tidy boot and I have borrowed it.

http://software.intel.com/en-us/article ... scripting/

A lot like MSDOS. The nsh files we are using can do much more, but aside from a nice "Joggler XP is loading" text display, I don't know what else to use it for.

Mevi, do you think there's anything that can be done to speed up the boot time? With an external usb hard drive it takes 2:30-3:00 minutes to boot xp using your old image with NOTHING besides VNC loading on startup.

Wow, is it taking that long? My current boot time with a hdd is around 1:20. I've timed that with a couple of hdds. I've just assembled another hdd and will be imaging that for testing later. Is the page file set up? Without a page file it will take longer. Build 2 was slow to boot because of the unneeded tablet junk. Build 1 was better. Removing the tablet junk is a matter of poking about in the registry, the page file can be permanently fixed by from cmd line.

C:\USBoot\USBoot phase-0

Skip all the steps except the one that says option "a" to enable pagefile

Depending on whether the guys on the Chinese forum have fixed the audio driver problem, I may be ready to release build 3 today or tomorrow.

manxam,

Curious if Mevi's USB thing fixed it for you. My boot times are really not bad. I am testing though with internal USB SSD, external flash sticks, external SSD USB and ZIF drive. You mentioned an external drive and Mevi's "first" image or "Second" image?

Hrmm. I just noticed that at least 30 seconds of the boot is at the "restoring network connections" screen. I have 4 jogglers and none of them have a working wired LAN in Windows and one (openpeak instead of o2) has a non-functioning wireless AND wired. All work in Linux. I'm wondering if the delay is due to the fact that it can't start the LAN card or if Windows is just that much slower than android/linux at obtaining an IP addy over wlan.

Sorry, this is Mevi's "first" image as I found it much faster on my usb keys.

Mevi, did you ever get an image with working EWF from that Chinese forum? I had made two download attempts at one that was SUPPOSED to work but could not get the ghost file to extract.

Three minutes seems far to long, do you know the speeds of your hard drive, and how fast it spins?

And the. Ghost images are a nightmare, try and find ghost explorer it helps alot

It could be that the LAN lookup is stalling the boot, but my openpeak still boots in about a minute.

The drive is a Hitachi 7200 rpm 8mb cache 2.5" laptop drive so it's definitely not the bottleneck. I'm a MAC user by day so there's no native ghost program for it. I run XP in Virtualbox but couldn't get the ghost files to extract no matter what I tried.

While we're on the topic, does anyone know why the wired lans on some of these boxes don't work and why my open peak version has both wlan and lan not functioning?

Wireless works fine on my openpeak, but have never got the LAN working, have you tried reinstalling the wlan driver?

manxam wrote:Hrmm. I just noticed that at least 30 seconds of the boot is at the "restoring network connections" screen. I have 4 jogglers and none of them have a working wired LAN in Windows and one (openpeak instead of o2) has a non-functioning wireless AND wired. All work in Linux. I'm wondering if the delay is due to the fact that it can't start the LAN card or if Windows is just that much slower than android/linux at obtaining an IP addy over wlan.

Sorry, this is Mevi's "first" image as I found it much faster on my usb keys.

Mevi, did you ever get an image with working EWF from that Chinese forum? I had made two download attempts at one that was SUPPOSED to work but could not get the ghost file to extract.

try running the network set up wizard from the network connections control panel. On the first 2 builds, I had left Windows to sort itself out after installing on the VirtualPC... I think this is the cause of the iffy network, connection-wise. The wizard has improved the connection that already worked, but it doesn't cure a non-working NIC. Build 3 is better than the first 2 builds in that respect.

The problem is somewhere on the motherboard. Error 10 is when the drivers won't load due to a function being unsupported by the HW. I have 1 working NIC, one non working NIC. Wireless works on both. Both are O2 jogglers. Both flashed to factory OS. EFI chips swapped. Wireless cards swapped. The problem stays with the problem motherboard. Pete is sure a NIC firmware upgrade/downgrade is the way to go, but we can't get a pure DOS prompt to be able to do that. Perhaps there's something that can be done to the INF to remove some of the driver functionality. Just an idea.

Chinese XP with EWF, it boots and I can see EWF.sys in the boot sequence, but I can't get it past the initial HW driver install... it fails to repond to touch or keyboard/mouse combos that are known to work on other XP. It's alive and plugging in the keyboards gets the drive access light flashing, but nothing, nada.

I'm using ghost explorer and exporting the file structure to a VHD, so I may be shagging something - I can have a go at booting a virtual PC with a recovery disk ISO and imaging the VHD that way. It might be better. I'll let you know.

I promise never to use a GHO file!! I used to use Ghost at work 10 or more years ago, now it's obsolete.

Dan, remember when you got a replacement PSU a couple of months back? Was it a generic, or original? What did you pay for it. I'm about to pull the trigger on a job lot of 3x PSU-less customer returns.

Was a generic one, just make sure that its the same voltages, but be aware with the new psu I now experience boot screen corruption, its either a little to powerful or a little under, although stickering states they are identical, but it does work perfect, think I may need to invest in an o2 joggler rather than the openpeak currently in use, as the openpeak seems a little more rare

Good news there Mevi on the ghost image (well sort of). Do you have a link for the ghost image with the EWF?

Here in the US for whatever reason I am finding the OpenPeak PS US style power supplies for $9.50 USD plus shipping.

I did time the boot on your last build Mevi using an externally plugged in USB SSD stick; at 70 seconds from plugging in the PS to XP screen without a NIC plugged in. This was the "fat" build I guess. It's always 40 seconds to the video thing and 30 seconds from there to an XP desktop.

BTW Mevi; I get a maybe 50% boot rate with the NIC cable plugged in on the desk Joggler on your last build; timing from the video thing to the desktop with the NIC cable is maybe 5 seconds or so more. It works or just hangs there at 80 seconds from soup to nuts.

Any clues how they got ewf working yet mevi?