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Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:03 pm
by Mevi
The PATA ZIF 1.8" drives are abundant on eBay.... They're also used in iPod classics, as well as ultra portables. Also cheap are ZIF to CF adapters, some with a 1.8" case for tidiness. I wonder if a CF card with adaptor will fit inside the joggler case. I need to read up on CF cards that are bootable as 'fixed drives', I read that not all are.
Inaxeon, I might take you up on your offer to solder!!

Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:05 pm
by danfoshizzle
Looks good! hows the transfer speeds?
EDIT: Found this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/30GB-1-8-PATA ... 209wt_1139
Any good?
Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:10 pm
by pete
I think I could talk or write to the owner of a motherboard repair service stateside that may be able to do this....
Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:12 pm
by danfoshizzle
pete_c wrote:I think I could talk or write to the owner of a motherboard repair service stateside that may be able to do this....
If he does motherboard repair he should be able to

Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:14 pm
by inaxeon
danfoshizzle wrote:Looks good! hows the transfer speeds?
I think those SSDs are pretty good. They're designed to be used as boot drives, unlike CF cards which are terrible, and die pretty fast.
But I think mickchip probably knows more about the performance of those than I do, so let's wait for his input. I've only used mine for DOS. I'm booting Win 7 from a SATA HDD.
I have to stress, this is only for playing around - I don't anticipate PATA to be the "be it all, end it all" boot mechanism for Win 7.
Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:20 pm
by mickchip
I got mine off ebay, if you use the 1.3"ssd's you need just a standard 40 way fpc type A (contacts on the same side) blue both ends
A 1.8" ssd or hdd you need a reverse contacts fpc or type B (contact on opposite sides) blue one end white the other
All available on ebay
The 1.8 ssd's are way better than the hard drives, I use a 64gb one in my q1 ultra, much faster
Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:22 pm
by pete
W7 here wouldn't install on the USB connected ZIF drive for whatever reason.
Just the fact there you are providing the community with a new Joggler BIOS is great inaxeon.
Would an SSD to the PATA port fit inside of the Joggler anyways? I guess you could insulate it somehow?
mickchip; can you fit your pata combo inside of the Joggler?
Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:22 pm
by inaxeon
mickchip wrote:I got mine off ebay, if you use the 1.3"ssd's you need just a standard 40 way fpc type A (contacts on the same side) blue both ends
A 1.8" ssd or hdd you need a reverse contacts fpc or type B (contact on opposite sides) blue one end white the other
All available on ebay
Yeah so you're using same as me. "Bottom Contact" ZIF connector on the Joggler, and flat cable. Did your cable come with the SSD?
Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:24 pm
by inaxeon
pete_c wrote:W7 here wouldn't install on the USB connected ZIF drive for whatever reason.
Just the fact there you are providing the community with a new Joggler BIOS is great inaxeon.
Would an SSD to the PATA port fit inside of the Joggler anyways? I guess you could insulate it somehow?
mickchip; can you fit your pata combo inside of the Joggler?
The SSD I have easily fits inside the Joggler - It's very thin. Just wrap it up in Kapton tape, or anything else that insulates well that doesn't break down. Maybe a sheet of paper would do

Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:26 pm
by Mevi
managed to get a bluescreen twice... same each time.
I have an 8GB ZIF SSD in my non functional Acer Aspire One (broken power jack socket) I read that the Intel ones some AAOs use are to be avoided, I forget which brand is the one I have.
Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:28 pm
by pete
I'm looking at the "super talent" PCIE SSD I just removed from the netbook; it is really thin; never paid attention to the SSD drives I have laying around here.
Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:29 pm
by mickchip
I got one with the ssd but I also bought a load from hong kong, both types and different lengths.
Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:30 pm
by inaxeon
Mevi wrote:managed to get a bluescreen twice... same each time.
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I have an 8GB ZIF SSD in my non functional Acer Aspire One (broken power jack socket) I read that the Intel ones some AAOs use are to be avoided, I forget which brand is the one I have.
Does your build ever boot? If so, that is actually very useful. That is the first time I've seen an 0x7B on a working installation, given that it's also booting from USB, that really narrows it down...
Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:32 pm
by mickchip
inaxeon wrote:pete_c wrote:W7 here wouldn't install on the USB connected ZIF drive for whatever reason.
Just the fact there you are providing the community with a new Joggler BIOS is great inaxeon.
Would an SSD to the PATA port fit inside of the Joggler anyways? I guess you could insulate it somehow?
mickchip; can you fit your pata combo inside of the Joggler?
The SSD I have easily fits inside the Joggler - It's very thin. Just wrap it up in Kapton tape, or anything else that insulates well that doesn't break down. Maybe a sheet of paper would do

The super talent or trancend 1.3" ssds will easy fit inside the joggler
Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:40 pm
by Mevi
sometimes I get to the desktop - well, twice out of 4 or 5 attempts. Takes a long time to get there with user profile service, server service, page file not working. I left the keyboard dongle out after selecting safe mode and plugged it back in on the desktop. One of the times the touchscreen worked but the trackpad didn't. Next time I get to the desktop I'll spend a bit more time with it.
Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:43 pm
by pete
Thank mickchip.
Geez; automation server just crashed....
Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:21 pm
by Mevi
Back at the safemode desktop after another of the same bluescreen. I also see that ol' familiar Realtek driver not working along with a USB controller. I'll start digging for drivers.
Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:24 pm
by inaxeon
Mevi wrote:Back at the safemode desktop after another of the same bluescreen. I also see that ol' familiar Realtek driver not working along with a USB controller. I'll start digging for drivers.
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w7jog2.jpg
The realtek driver isn't going to work until I write some code which fixes the EEPROM (assuming it has one)
As for the USB controller. That's just the USBC. You don't need that. If it really bugs you, EDC has drivers for it, but there is no physical connection to the USBC on the Joggler so it's useless.
(assuming your unknown device has these IDs? device manager will tell you on the details tab, select Device IDs)

Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:29 pm
by mickchip
And yet another blue screen
had it all working off the pata port then install the gma500 drivers, rebooted and now this.
won't even boot in safe mode.
Re: Coreboot and SeaBIOS
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:32 pm
by inaxeon
mickchip wrote:And yet another blue screen
had it all working off the pata port then install the gma500 drivers, rebooted and now this.
won't even boot in safe mode.
What the heck display drivers are you guys using?
If you're not using this:
http://xpander.mattmillman.com/data/fil ... Y3LG4A.rar You're using the wrong driver.