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Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:04 pm
by pete
So I completed the backup image to a CF drive. Using the same Joggler XP image I wrote the CF snapshot C drive image over to the IDE 1.8" drive. The application did indicate it could not create another boot partition. This wasn't really an issue. I booted up an adjacent laptop (with Ubuntu 11.04 on it), attached the IDE/USB drive to it and set the NTFS partition to a boot partition.

I then connected the 1.8" IDE/USB drive by itself to the Joggler. Booted right up (very fast) and into Windows XP. Next piece was to run the touchscreen application that I am testing (Linux, Android, RDP, etc). It ran just fine and very quick. Faster than the RDP version, slower than the Android and Linux Version; where as the Ubuntu 11.04 runs the touchscreen application the fastest.

Next piece is to add VNC for remote access. The small size would maybe work inside of the Joggler; but then I would lose the WLAN piece; so better now to try to get the LAN Nic to work.

Now if the faster USB works as well as this IDE; that would be ideal.

From here will run RW benchmarks and will post them.

I wonder if a USB connected SSD would work better. I have the "PCIE" mini style ones but none of them have USB connections on them. Or maybe using (not a really good soldering person these days) the PATA interface with a small "boot" only USB internal drive.

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:13 am
by pete
2 reboots later its back to the speeds of the original USB flash drive. Not sure why though.

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:59 pm
by danfoshizzle
i think it may be page filing thats the issue

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:22 pm
by danfoshizzle
winpe now boots also, trying to build english version

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:01 pm
by pete
Great news Dan!

Yes think that's the issue (page file) maybe.

Reading a lot on the web lately. I found a smaller USB hub which allows boot of IDE 1.8" drive and keyboard and mouse which helps some.

Its kind of a "first" with EFI et al other than folks playing with MAC's to get to XP.

Its nice though 'cuz with a linux setup you can manipulate the partition and files within partition; which is easier to do than with a windows box.

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:05 pm
by danfoshizzle
yeah thats what makes it difficult, being the first lol

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:26 pm
by pete
Just wrote the partition to the test drive again. Booted very quickly. Its "stalling" a bit as it loads the USB drivers. With a keyboard and mouse I can see a bit more what its doing. Let me know if I can do anything from here.

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:40 pm
by danfoshizzle
not sure of the next step yet, just continue using and posting your thoughts thanks pete

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:45 pm
by danfoshizzle
interesting software found, eboostr, readyboost for windows xp!

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:11 pm
by pete
Here's something that I am using on the Asus 900A multiboot laptop I have. Works fine for me for XP RAM. But I have 2Gb of Ram in the machine, SSD and SD booting stuff.

Its very old and its "roots" are in embedded MS.

I got this originally from the EEEPC Asus website forum.

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:07 pm
by danfoshizzle
anybody experienced in winpe
?

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:49 pm
by pete
Dan,

I haven't played in years with it. If you give me a step by step on what you are doing. I also have VM's running here; but would rather test in vivo.

Additionally have numerous build kits for XPE; but again its been a few years. (although did do a quickie build last year on a new Atom D510).

Been concurrently playing with some new custom one purpose software on two builds using a "Pink" PogoPlug (running archlinux) and a Seagate Dockstar (debian linux). (Mono/SDL stuff).

I tinker though as a hobby; not as a profession; and my preference is relating to HW; versus software programming.


Pete

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:38 pm
by danfoshizzle
me neither Pete i'm a fellow tinkerer, i am not dong anything PE wise yet, trying to get a decent windows install going.

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:44 pm
by pete
So found some quickie directions to make an XP WinPE USB dongle on an XP machine.
1. Download a copy of HxD (http://mh-nexus.de/hxd/)
2. Format your USB Flash drive in XP: format x: /fs:fat (where x: is your USB UFD)\
3. Open HxD, Click Extras -> Open Disk (Uncheck "Open as Readonly") and select "Removable Disk 1"
4. Hit Alt-G and goto offset 1BE. Ensure this is 80, if not make it 80 (Active Partition)
5. Hit Alt-G and goto offset 10024. Make this 80 (Vista wants a logical drive number 80).
6. Hit Alt-G and goto offset 101A1, Type in 42 4F 4F 54 4D 47 52 (This sets the executable code to look the file BOOTMGR)
7. Exit and Save changes.
8. xcopy your WinPE source files to the USB Drive.

Dir list of my F: (USB Drive)
=====================================
F:\>dir
Volume in drive F has no label.
Volume Serial Number is 884F-2BD0

Directory of F:\

02/11/2006 01:53 AM 438,840 bootmgr
20/12/2007 02:16 PM <DIR> boot
20/12/2007 02:16 PM <DIR> EFI
20/12/2007 02:16 PM <DIR> sources
1 File(s) 438,840 bytes
3 Dir(s) 784,105,472 bytes free
Or prep a USB drive with UFDPREP.EXE from here:

http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/de ... n&id=16958

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:01 am
by pete
So I changed the flag on the partition such that I can play with the boot files and specifically the USB stuff.

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:06 am
by danfoshizzle
nice work pete

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:14 am
by danfoshizzle
working on pagefile issue at present, will keep all informed

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:31 am
by danfoshizzle
also testing alt windows eg; 2003

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:04 am
by danfoshizzle
think i have a working pagefile

Re: release: xp on joggler foshiz edition (image up)

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:13 am
by pete
Great news Dan!

Better than my progress so far....

Here I tried the following -
- created a 1 partition Fat32 USB drive - made it bootable and active
- installed the USB boot program - tested it to be fine booting into windows (using my Asus901A)
- moved custom ntdetect.com and ntldr to root drive created.
- copied over rest of files on current configured usb single partition drive
- boots to invalide ntdetect.com file and boot.ini file. (changed boot.ini such that it boots windows from first partition).