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Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:17 pm
by Mevi
Yeah, Happy new Year. I'm usually miserable at New Year, but we're going out in a bit to celebrate. Have a good night, everyone.
Still no wiser about the NIC, only that the newest (PCIe Gb family) driver causes lockups, the older one that we have works for the most part. Following that logic, an older one might do the trick, if it's down to firmware of some of the Jogglers. I feel like we're going round in circles... Might be a glitch in The Matrix, but I'm sure we've had this same conversation before!

Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:22 pm
by danfoshizzle
We probably have, but its a bug that's annoying alot of people lol, I personally only utilise the WiFi on my joggler, but would like to get it fixed for others
Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:37 pm
by pete
Happy New Year Guys!!!
Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:52 pm
by danfoshizzle
hAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!
Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:32 pm
by hawsey
Happy New Year all

happy joggling for 2012 ..
Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:45 pm
by mickchip
And a Happy New Year from me (still working on OSX)
Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:53 pm
by danfoshizzle
HOW FAR YOU GOT MICK?
Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:00 pm
by Mevi
mickchip wrote:And a Happy New Year from me (still working on OSX)
Awesome
I'll be looking at drivers meant for other US15W machines, to see if I can cobble something together.
When I get around to it, I'll post a 'How to make your own Joggler XP' for the Wiki, with screenshots and the ingredients you'll need attached.
Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:04 pm
by danfoshizzle
will also contribute mevi, we may have slightly different ways around things lol
Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:35 pm
by pete
I'm guessing that the whole network thing could be something like a "tweak" to the "inf" files for the drivers of the Realtek NIC similiar in fashion to the sound driver modifications.
The older drivers had a configuration txt file for some adjustments. The firmware modifications posted on Realtek related to a write to the rom for booting et al but little else documentation exists for anything else non related. That said it would be easy to brick the firmware on the integrated NIC should some mishap occur.
There is a definitive difference in the newest #5 Joggler that I have been playing with; as Mevi said it's probably a difference in the firmware pieces of the integrated NIC card. Sometimes just leaving it powered off / disconnected NC for say 30 minutes or more is enough to get it to work again or out of its D3 state. I remember with Joggler #1 seeing the error 10 coming up and making the assumption that just changing the values of the legacy Realtek drivers was making it work; don't really know though if that was what was occurring.
Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:48 pm
by Mevi
danfoshizzle wrote:will also contribute mevi, we may have slightly different ways around things lol
Yeah, of course - it's all good. I build mine in VirtualPC, VHDs and use minitools to image the drives. I've built all mine from TinyXP or OEM disks. I'm sure someone else will have a way of doing things that is different again!

Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:57 pm
by danfoshizzle
I utilise virtualbox, partition guru for vhd manipulation, and building recently from my own nlited xp pro, ground up you may say lol
Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:41 am
by danfoshizzle
New build now includes tablet pc components, for one specific reason and thats for screen calibration
Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:27 am
by danfoshizzle
new build coming along nicely, just sorting out ewf and its problems and should be good to go!!
Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:26 am
by -=xXx=-
Hello everyone...
Can someone please point me to working Sound driver so internal speaker to work and Audio out...
And also I can't get windows xp to boot from USB HDD I always get ntldr error...If someone has booted from USB HDD can please explay how it is done ?
How many partitions ? or everything can be stored into one fat 32 partition ?
Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:36 am
by Mevi
You need a fat16 or fat32 primary partition of about 200MB, with the EFI files in (too small and it won't boot). The second XP partition needs to be NTFS primary
ACTIVE partition. If you download one of the builds of Windows Server 2003 or XP Pro SP3, you will see how it works. If you are making a build of your own, you will need USBoot so that XP will boot from a USB drive. Lastly, you will need the replacement
NTCOMMAND.COM, NTLDR and VGA.SYS. Boot.ini will also need to point to
partition (2).
There is more to it than that, so we plan to write up a proper instruction guide.
The sound driver you will find in any of the recent XP builds, but it can only output sound out of the speaker and headphone socket at the same time.
http://www.jogglerwiki.com/forum/viewto ... eway#p3405
Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:49 am
by danfoshizzle
Mevi wrote: Lastly, you will need the replacement
NTCOMMAND.COM, NTLDR and VGA.SYS. Boot.ini will also need to point to
partition (2).
There is more to it than that, so we plan to write up a proper instruction guide.
Should be NTDETECT.COM

lol
Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:30 am
by danfoshizzle
Boot to desktop time is at 1:23, needs to be a little faster to be a certified foshiz build lol
Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:56 am
by danfoshizzle
shutdown at 11 seconds, both of these times with no ewf, will post ewf results in a while
Re: And building begins again!
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:32 am
by Mevi
danfoshizzle wrote:shutdown at 11 seconds, both of these times with no ewf, will post ewf results in a while
Whoops, no excuse for that goof... The number of times I've copied those files over..
Holy crap, 11 seconds to shut down. That's quick. Boot times are a pig, even with XP stripped back and with minlogon, I can't get any faster. Boot times of hdd vs flash don't seem much different either.