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Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:31 pm
by pete
Got some numbers this morning from SisSoftware Sandra.
It appears (but I really don't know) that the OS is running using one only of the two multithreading CPUs.
< Processor >
Model: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU Z520 @ 1.33GHz
Speed: 1.33GHz
Peak Processing Performance (P:2.66GFLOPS)
Adjusted Peak Performance (APP:798WM
Cores per Processor: 1 Unit(s)
Threads per Core: 1 Unit(s)
Type: Tablet/MID
Integrated Data Cache: 24kB, Synchronous, Write-Thru, 6-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing
L2 Cache: 512kB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 8-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing
Warning 234: Hyper-Threading disabled or OS does not support all HT CPUs. Check configuration.
< Detailed Benchmark Results >
Buffered Read: 27.17MB/s
Sequential Read: 27.82MB/s
Random Read: 27.75MB/s
Buffered Write: 6.16MB/s
Sequential Write: 10MB/s
Random Write: 6.12MB/s
Random Access Time: 101µs
< Performance Test Status >
Result ID: KingSpecKSD-USB.1-008MJ 8GB (USB)
I've attached a couple of pictures. One is of the Joggler. Notice that the graphs only show 1 CPU. The other picture is of an Atom D510. Noticed it shows 4 CPUs (the D510 is a dual core dual multhreading CPU.
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:39 pm
by danfoshizzle
Should be one core and two threads, not sure why the benchmark is showing different
Will try a reading from cpuz and see if it says different.
Did you get the screenshot via vnc or on the joggler itself?
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:40 pm
by pete
The screenshot is via VNC. Will do the same with CPUZ.
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:47 pm
by jimeney
Any tips on getting this onto a Micro SD card?
I'm on a mac, have inserted the card into the reader and used the following command:
sudo dd if=/Users/jamescoleman/Doads/2003FoShiz.img of=disk1
disk1 being the MicroSD card according to system profiler.
It writes the file and completes without error, however there are no files on the card and the partition scheme has not changed.
Any tips for OS X users?
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:46 pm
by pete
Jimeney,
I put it on a microsd 16Gb card initially. I used Linux though to get the image over.
Dan,
Here is a CPU-Z pic - yes - it shows one CPU and one thread.
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:10 pm
by danfoshizzle
Very strange, looking into it now pete
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:29 pm
by danfoshizzle
Seems that the hyper thread issue is down to the right driver not being installed for the processor in the HAL
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:39 pm
by pete
So Dan; it should be just replacing the DLL eh?
BTW before you do anything; check your setup. These are my XP numbers. I didn't look yet at the W2003 setup. Might be the same or different?
Looked at the boot.ini lines and they look fine:
/fastdetect /kernel=ntkrnlmp.exe /hal=halmacpi.dll
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:40 pm
by danfoshizzle
Never really looked into HT before, but seems as though the joggler may be better off without it:
This is what Intel calls hyperthreading (also called simultaneous multithreading). For example, the Intel Core i7 processor with four cores can run eight threads simultaneously - two in each core. Apparently, the more threads you can run simultaneously the more work you get done in a given time. But there is a problem here: The two threads running in the same core are competing for the same resources. If each of the two threads gets only half the amount of a limiting resource then it will run at half speed, and the advantage of hyperthreading is completely gone. Two threads running at half speed is certainly not better than a single thread running at full speed.
Will still look at getting this fixed though!
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:43 pm
by danfoshizzle
Possibly a dll replacement may do it, but on the other hand i may need to rewrite the os just to take advantage of the extra thread,
Server itself is fine as it supports multi core cpus, but the hal might be difficult to fix with the os already installed.
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:43 pm
by pete
I have a W2003 standard server set up with a newer Atom D510 (pics above) and while I see the 2 cores and 4 threads; most of the work most of the time shifts over to one of the two cores.
I'm running CPU-Z on that one. It ran really fast; in less than 10 seconds; on the Joggler it took over a minute.
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:46 pm
by danfoshizzle
Yeah i see the thinking behind one physical thread and one virtual thread,
But in a limited environment like the joggler this may just work out for the better,
So all of the screens above are from xp?
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:49 pm
by pete
The last image is from my W2003 server running with an Atom D510. The first ones are of the XP image initially posted running on the Joggler.
See what your CPU-Z number look like with the W2003 OS running.
http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/cpu-z/1.58-setup-en.exe
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:11 pm
by danfoshizzle
device manager in 2003 build states that it sees 2 processors, meaning hyperthreading is enabled,
But cpuz still only shows one cpu, one core.
How very strange lol
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:59 pm
by pete
Same thing on the Device Manager of the XP build.
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:25 pm
by SuperSaf
jimeney wrote:Any tips on getting this onto a Micro SD card?
I'm on a mac, have inserted the card into the reader and used the following command:
sudo dd if=/Users/jamescoleman/Doads/2003FoShiz.img of=disk1
disk1 being the MicroSD card according to system profiler.
It writes the file and completes without error, however there are no files on the card and the partition scheme has not changed.
Any tips for OS X users?
When specifying the disk to write the image to, you need to put /dev/ before disk#. Also put bs=10485760 at the end. So full command would be:
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sudo dd if=whatever.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=10485760
Hope that helps
Saf
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:54 pm
by mickchip
Anyone
How do I get the sound to work from the speakers in XP
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:31 am
by pete
To get sound working on XP do this:
1 - Download the Gateway audio driver from here:
http://global-download.gateway.com/GDFi ... Y&SC=PA_6G
2 - Unzip the file you downloaded from Gateway
3 - Download the attached INI file and replace the one with the same name in the Gateway configuration.
4 - remove your old driver and install this newly modified driver.
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:44 am
by pacman99uk
How are you guys copying the img file to a pendrive? when i try using the same method as the linux releases (using win32 disk imager) it simply says "done" when trying to write but nothing actually copies and the original (android) partitioning is still there. This happens with both the xp and 2003 releases but no others.
or should i be making a manual partition and extracting the img file to the pendrive?
Anyway, thanks for the release. Is there a donation email address i can send you a few quid?
-Warren
Re: Windows Server 2003 RELEASED
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:20 am
by pete
Yes; Dan should set up a donation email address; how about it Dan!
I've done it a few ways. Win32 disk manager errors out sometimes for me. I use USB Image tool. I also have done the manual thing with linux using GParted. The first image posted for XP was a bit bigger than my 4Gb drive so I wrote it to an 8Gb drive and used GParted to shrink it down such that it would fit on my 4Gb drive. You can too make the USB stick have the appearance of a disk drive and see both fat32 and NTFS partitions on your PC.
The W2003 release has more "bells and whistles" than the XP release and does a better job of memory management making it quicker.