Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

General discussion relating to the O2 Joggler, from the default O2 setup, to alternative operating systems and applications.
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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by BuZz » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:28 pm

I replaced them already. I don't want to distribute images with that setting.

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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by hawsey » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:11 pm

Ok no worries , I'll just add it , thanks again .

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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by Juggler » Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:27 pm

Thanks for the explanation BuzZ, of why my joggler flies. I havent noticed any overheating issues and I'm using a joggler with a backstand. I usually have the opposite problem of the joggler being too cold and having a "smoke screen" as it was once described.

I wanted to try the infinity plug in with audacious

https://dprotti.github.io/infinity-plugin/

however it requires audacious 3.6 and upwards, which is not yet in the main repositories. Some research revealed

https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+ar ... tu/webupd8

So I went ahead and added the respositories and tried to update audacious. However it was held back. Bit more research revealed I needed to do and a dist-upgrade, which I was hesitant to do, but thought, why not.

Did that and a number of packages were updated and joggler still boots. I thought it might break something. Audacious 3.8.2 seemed to work fine.

Next, I had to install the infinity plug in dependencies. There was a lot Did that. Then downloaded the infinity source, configured, made and installed it. Started audacious and looked for infinity plugin. Not there. Need to do some digging on this one. If any one has any suggestions, would appreciate that.

Also, I've been using a USB 3 hub with the Joggler for a few days and it has been fine. I thought it might of been the hub that was providing the joggler xubuntu with a speed boost ! I think it probably helps, just like using usb 3 sticks, which actually I am using plugged into the hub. I bought this 4 port usb 3 hub from aliexpress for around $4.

I'd like to install kdeconnect but there are so many dependencies. I think maybe have a go and see, but be prepared to start from the initial image again...

https://community.kde.org/KDEConnect

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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by JonTheNiceGuy » Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:50 pm

Don't suppose anyone has made the jump to 16.04? I need bluez5 for something I'm trying and the Bluez5-for-Trusty PPA keeps hanging the box when starting BluetoothD :(

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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by mangodan2003 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:19 pm

I have been contemplated doing a 16.04 build a few times but problems with the soddin GMA 500 has put me off. I think the situation basically consigned the poor jogglers (and few other odd bits of hardware that are unfortunate enough to be infected with them) to a life in the past.
I have 4 of them, 2 run only a basic custom (qt based tho waiting to be updated with a QML version) GUI which could probably get away without X and just use OpenGL - but i've not looked into this stuff for so many years i'm not sure and i just don't get the time these days.
A basic minimal (with no gui) 16.04 is pretty straight forward but to get a usable desktop environment - I think it just might never happen now.
Shame there are not more active users - might have had some chance of petitioning Intel into extracting the missing code from Imagination Technologies but that's just a pipe dream.
It's a real shame as the joggler is a real nice bit of kit other than that. But i just cant see the point in persevering with it now with no chance for an accelerated GUI and anything that doesn't need a GUI i'll just use an RPi.

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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by JonTheNiceGuy » Tue May 02, 2017 9:03 am

I've been playing with the scripts by roobarb that he's got on his Github Repo and I'm getting there (it's really quite easy to produce an image... I think!

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ofimgcreate.sh 16.04 ext2 1024 32 0 xenial overlay-trusty kernel/4.04
) but I can't make it boot yet... :)

Unfortunately, I also knackered my server over the weekend, so I need to rebuild that first (to stop the kids moaning about their Peppa episodes having gone missing) and *then* I'll go back to taking a look at that, you know, after the day job and all ;)

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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by roobarb! » Tue May 02, 2017 11:17 am

JonTheNiceGuy wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:50 pm
Don't suppose anyone has made the jump to 16.04? I need bluez5 for something I'm trying and the Bluez5-for-Trusty PPA keeps hanging the box when starting BluetoothD :(
I did bash together a CLI version of 16.04 a while ago just for kicks, but never bothered to update things as I've not quite adjusted to systemd yet and seeing as that's where things have gone, I should. It'll have been binned by now, but...
JonTheNiceGuy wrote:
Tue May 02, 2017 9:03 am
I've been playing with the scripts by roobarb that he's got on his Github Repo and I'm getting there (it's really quite easy to produce an image... I think!

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ofimgcreate.sh 16.04 ext2 1024 32 0 xenial overlay-trusty kernel/4.04
but I can't make it boot yet... :)
You're on the right track there - though I'd start with a bigger root partition and that dot in your volume label name might give you issues. Say:

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ofimgcreate.sh xen ext2 2048 32 0 xenial overlay-trusty kernel/4.04
See where that gets you. :)

Just for clarity, those scripts don't have anything to do with how BuZz builds his images (though I learned masses from how he does things!) so don't expect him to be able to offer support on them. Also, they only build to a command line image and will require the setup script (see /usr/local/bin on the built image) to be run afterwards for some extras to be sorted. Oh, and nothing has been updated to Xenial, so YMMV!
birdslikewires.net - home of the Reflash System, SqueezePlay (OS) and various tools for the Joggler!

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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by JonTheNiceGuy » Tue May 02, 2017 11:41 am

roobarb! wrote:
Tue May 02, 2017 11:17 am
Just for clarity, those scripts don't have anything to do with how BuZz builds his images (though I learned masses from how he does things!) so don't expect him to be able to offer support on them. Also, they only build to a command line image and will require the setup script (see /usr/local/bin on the built image) to be run afterwards for some extras to be sorted. Oh, and nothing has been updated to Xenial, so YMMV!
A very quick note to say, yes I know BuZz won't support these. I should probably make my own thread for this! :)

Sorry for any confusion to anyone following along at home :D

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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by fishz » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:40 pm

Hi guys

I finally dug out my Joggler again and put on the latest Xubuntu build. I'm glad to say that the install worked flawlessly and I went on to installing Teamviewer via the graphical installer (as they recommend) without issues. The one challenge I've now come across is an inability to keep the screen turned on all of the time. I've gone through the settings and think I've found all of the power management settings that might be turning it off and disabling them but still the screen turns off. My use will be as a bedside clock and photo frame (not a million miles from the original OS I know) hence staying on 24/7 is an absolutely basic requirement. Can anybody offer any advice on how to achieve this please?

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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by Andrew1971 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:53 pm

Hi
I am getting some error's on start up they go by quickly. one is about acpi another one is ioremap ox1FAF000 EFI failed.
Got keep restarting to try read them. Best I can do. I have tried downloading again, different HDD's, different usb hub's and without hub's
still the same. All tried on the side usb. Using firmware v30300 and pnp v3.60.
Andrew

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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by pete » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:00 pm

Thinking that an ACPI error or message has always come up with a reboot here and never has prevented the Joggler from booting up.

Over time do see RW errors coming up on the built in eMMC. Here typically boot up with Buzz's Ubuntu latest build and do a check and repair and reformat of the eMMC. Older USB sticks eventually fail with RW errors.

Personally - my opinion - is to do a repair of the eMMC built in drive in the O2 Joggler.
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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by Andrew1971 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:16 pm

Hi Pete
Thank's for the reply. These error's are coming up while booting up Buzz's Xubuntu latest build.

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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by hawsey » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:59 am

Are you trying to Efi boot with a Joggler with Squeezeplay OS installed on internal Andrew ?

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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by Andrew1971 » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:31 pm

Gary no joggler has got firmware v30300 pnp3.60 on internal emmc.
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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by pete » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:36 pm

@Andrew,

Does the Joggler boot up to Ubuntu from USB stick?

See here:

viewtopic.php?t=1277&start=20

Here tinkering with a modded Joggler which boots Ubuntu from eMMC or USB to SSD. I couldn't get it to boot from the SSD drive cuz of the EFI firmware configuration. (Modded with RTC/battery and USB hub tacked on to back and firmware in Realtek NIC).

The Kernel log does show some errors when booting.

Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: Notice: NX (Execute Disable) protection cannot be enabled: non-PAE kernel!
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: EFI v2.00 by American Megatrends
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI 2.0=0x1fa0af90
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: Kernel-defined memdesc doesn't match the one from EFI!
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: RSDP 0x000000001FA0AF90 00024 (v02 ALASKA)
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: XSDT 0x000000001FA09F10 0005C (v01 ALASKA CRNBEACH 06222004 MSFT 0001$
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: FACP 0x000000001F9E4D90 000F4 (v04 ALASKA CRNBEACH 06222004 MSFT 0001$
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI Warning: 32/64 FACS address mismatch in FADT - two FACS tables! (20110$
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI Warning: 32/64X FACS address mismatch in FADT - 0x1FA0DE40/0x000000001$
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI Warning: Optional field Pm2ControlBlock has zero address or length: 0x$
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI Warning: Invalid length for Pm2ControlBlock: 0, using default 8 (20110$
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: DSDT 0x000000001FA03010 040A4 (v01 ALASKA CRNBEACH 00000000 INTL 2005$
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: FACS 0x000000001FA0DE40 00040
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: APIC 0x000000001FA0AE90 0005C (v02 ALASKA CRNBEACH 06222004 MSFT 0001$
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: MCFG 0x000000001FA11D10 0003C (v01 A M I OEMMCFG 06222004 MSFT 0000$
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: HPET 0x000000001FA11C90 00038 (v01 A M I OEMHPET 06222004 AMI. 0000$
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: SSDT 0x000000001F9FE510 004CE (v02 PmRef CpuPm 00003000 INTL 2005$
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: SSDT 0x000000001F9E6A10 00232 (v02 PmRef Cpu0Tst 00003000 INTL 2005$
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: SSDT 0x000000001FA0DA10 000A0 (v02 PmRef Cpu1Tst 00003000 INTL 2005$
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: no DMI BIOS year, acpi=force is required to enable ACPI
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: acpi=force override
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee00000
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: Using APIC driver default
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x908
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee00000
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x02] lapic_id[0x01] enabled)
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec00000] gsi_base[0])
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 2, version 32, address 0xfec00000, GSI 0-23
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl dfl)
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 high level)
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: IRQ0 used by override.
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: IRQ2 used by override.
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: IRQ9 used by override.
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information
Dec 31 18:00:44 joggler kernel: ACPI: HPET id: 0x8086a201 base: 0xfed00000
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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by hawsey » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:09 pm

Are the errors causing issues Andrew ? Does it still boot up ?

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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by BuZz » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:19 pm

try another usb stick. Some USB sticks don't work (they get as far as loading the kernel from grub etc, then stop).

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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by Andrew1971 » Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:08 pm

Hi All
Thank's for the reply's. I have tried every usb flash drive I have , every usb hub I have , every hdd in an enclosure to usb I have main's powered,
I have downloaded the image several time's now. The error's are the same no matter what combo of hardware I use. But it does boot and work.
The screen brightness is alway's on maximum brightness every time I boot up even though I alway's put on minimum.

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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by hawsey » Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:53 pm

I think that's expected Andrew , I don't think it's actual errors , just the build sorting itself out on boot up , if it works once it's booted I wouldn't worry , I have always seen that also .

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Re: Ubuntu / Xubuntu for the O2 Joggler.

Post by Andrew1971 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:35 pm

Cheer's for the reply Gary. I did wonder if they were normal or not because I have never seen them before. It seem to take a couple of boot's to
fully sort herself out after that works fine. Now if I can get the screen start on dim instead of bright that would be good.
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