O2: Updating O2 Joggler on 30th April

wywywywy · Post by **wywywywy** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:00 pm

xAPPO wrote:My point though is that O2 advertised and took money , some at full price for units that offered a SMS send and receive facility - with 50 free texts per month included although the free allowance is not my issue - it's the messaging functionality which can't be replaced . Some people made a purchase decision based on this and these people now do not have that facility because of a deliberate cessation at short notice of the service by O2. O2 have taken money on that basis and therefore shouldn't be allowed to just cease the service. That IMHO has got to be questionable from a legal perspective.

It isn't very nice, but to be honest 3 years of support is pretty reasonable already for a tech product in my opinion, especially one that flopped quite badly.

ordessa · Post by **ordessa** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:29 pm

But O2 never really developed it... they promised a lot...and then failed

it wasnt until they offered us the £50 deal did the masses take it up...and then we did all the change work

so they cant cry too much really... they never did much work around it after did they?

danfoshizzle · Post by **danfoshizzle** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:28 am

Only 9 days until the update, if I am jogglerless by then someone will have to make a post explaining what they changed!

Post by **hawsey** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:33 pm

Will it be better to wait to see what happens with this update in case it breaks the ability to hack our jogglers or will they all force update anyway regardless? So will this be thank you and goodnight from o2 do we think?

danfoshizzle · Post by **danfoshizzle** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:47 pm

No, the fact they acknowledge our existence on this forum makes me think they won't lock it down, and I think this is the end of life update, no more after this.

jazzmista · Post by **jazzmista** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:24 pm

danfoshizzle wrote:No, the fact they acknowledge our existence on this forum makes me think they won't lock it down, and I think this is the end of life update, no more after this.

Don't bother trying to ask them..

I sent them this email:

Hello,

I have an O2 Joggler, and I understand that there will be an update to it rolling out on the 30th of April.

From what I can tell, it will be a sunset update for the Joggler, as it removes all O2 functionality.

I was wondering if it would be possible to release the source code of the stock OS after this final update - it would be much appreciated to all of us Joggler "hackers"! It also means we can try to provide support and updates for the Joggler after the sunset period.

Thanks for your time,
Jamie Hoyle

and got this back:

Hello Jamie

Thanks for emailing us.

To resolve the problem with the O2 Joggler, please visit the nearest O2
shop.

To know your nearest O2 shop, use the below link:

http://www.multimap.com/share/o2/

If there's anything else I can help you with, let me know.

Regards

Dominic
O2 Customer Service

Telefonica UK Limited, Registered Office 260 Bath Road, Slough, SL1 4DX.
Registered in England and Wales No. 1743099.

*********************************************************************************
Dear O2 Customer, Please note that this is an unmonitored email account and we will not be able to respond to your query. If you have a query about your service please visit http://www.o2.co.uk/help or email us at mailto:mycare@o2mail.co.uk where it will receive our attention.
Regards, O2 Customer Care
This communication is from Telefonica UK Limited. Registered office: 260 Bath Road, Slough SL1 4DX. Registered in England and Wales: 1743099. VAT number: GB 778 6037
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Hmm...

Post by **BuZz** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:27 pm

Yeh, that's the sort of things I expect - but thanks for trying. You might do better to contact openpeak directly - certainly they should be able to provide source for the missing module to write the efi. whether they will though is another matter.

Post by **roobarb!** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:28 pm

You may be better talking to OpenPeak - it's their software, and they need to abide by the terms of the open source licences.

Also, search for OpenPeak SDK. You'll find you can download everything save for the OS from http://dev.openpeak.com/.

jazzmista · Post by **jazzmista** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:49 pm

BuZz wrote:Yeh, that's the sort of things I expect - but thanks for trying. You might do better to contact openpeak directly - certainly they should be able to provide source for the missing module to write the efi. whether they will though is another matter.

roobarb! wrote:You may be better talking to OpenPeak - it's their software, and they need to abide by the terms of the open source licences.

Also, search for OpenPeak SDK. You'll find you can download everything save for the OS from http://dev.openpeak.com/.

Thanks for the advice, how about this? (sent to info [at] openpeak [dot] com)

Hello,

I have an O2 Joggler (OpenPeak 7), and I understand that there will be an update to it rolling out on the 30th of April, customary of O2.

From what I can tell, it will be a sunset update for the Joggler, as it removes all O2 functionality.

I was wondering if it would be possible to release the source code of the stock OS after this final update - it would be much appreciated to all of us Joggler "hackers"! It also means we can try to provide support and updates for the Joggler after the sunset period. Finally, also help you conform to the open source licenses upon which your software is based - from what we can tell the Joggler/OpenPeak 7 runs Ubuntu, which (for the majority) conforms to GPL.

Thanks for your time,
Jamie Hoyle

Very similar to the O2 one except with OpenPeak references and some stuff about GPL at the bottom - not going to mention the fact that there are 4+ different licences for different bits of Ubuntu! (don't worry, the majority is GPL, like I stated above.)

Post by **hawsey** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:58 pm

If we had these last bits of info what issues would it help with?
Hope they just give us what we need:-)

Post by **BuZz** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:26 pm

they may well send the file they released before though. specifically it misses the "fh" kernel module which is the one we need.

jazzmista · Post by **jazzmista** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:08 pm

BuZz wrote:they may well send the file they released before though. specifically it misses the "fh" kernel module which is the one we need.

Haven't sent the email yet, I'll add a request for the fh driver at the end.

Post by **roobarb!** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:25 pm

jazzmista wrote:
BuZz wrote:they may well send the file they released before though. specifically it misses the "fh" kernel module which is the one we need.
Haven't sent the email yet, I'll add a request for the fh driver at the end.

Specifically, we need the source code for that driver - we already have the binary! I sent a message myself some time ago, but heard nothing back.

morf3h · Post by **morf3h** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:41 pm

I have posted the current source code for the O2 joggler... If you can use this for anything, or maybe compile the drivers/interface back after the update
http://www.jogglerwiki.com/forum/viewto ... ?f=4&t=530

Post by **BuZz** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:52 pm

Thanks. actually we (at least me and roobarb) already had this, hence the stuff about the missing module source. However, others might not have it so thanks for posting.

charlesr · Post by **charlesr** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:25 pm

Hi peeps. Would I be best off blocking internet access to my joggler until there's some news here after the update?

edit: Actually I've gone ahead and blocked it's IP address from the internet at the router. I only use it for squeezeplay anyway to control another sbclassic.

jkn · Post by **jkn** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:20 pm

Actually, anyone know if there's a particular port that's worth blocking?

J^n

Shonk · Post by **Shonk** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:23 am

I wonder when it will update nothing yet
and i forced a reboot

Post by **BuZz** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:38 am

Kitchen joggler on, booted into old os (first time since I had it, i had lots of o2 messages heh), waiting as my sacrificial virgin

danfoshizzle · Post by **danfoshizzle** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:14 am

Joggler sitting and waiting to be updated! Once it does will have a play

EDIT: oh right, could take four days to update lol

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