**BUILD 3 - Windows XP Professional SP3 (Plus Tablet PC)**

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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by pete » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:34 pm

Mevi,

We are your captured audience right now!

I did the benchmarking with no tweaks on the USB SSD. I did "mess up" the build; so reimaged it after maybe 30 minutes of playing. All I did was enable a static pagefile. From then on I got an error about no page file when booting. I've done similiar to earlier builds. Right now the older build running on the older USB SSD has a static pagefile of 1024 and it did stick.

Last night wrote the image to the ZIF drive. It appears faster; but having NIC problems both with warm (going to O2 screen 100% of the time) and cold with a hang during boot if network cable is plugged in.

So not even looking at the rev level of the NIC drivers I downgraded the NIC driver to the one I have been using for both the W2003 and XP builds; its older but seems a bit less problematic; maybe though its just me. I haven't really benchmarked the ZIF drive build too much this morning and will do later today.

I have had no screen shift issues so far with any builds on the three Jogglers. I didn't have any issues with the WLAN interface.

On Dan's earlier XP builds I never changed the build itself; it was alway just the EFI "stuff".
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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by Mevi » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:30 pm

If you get a no page file error, you need to update the driver for the disk in Device Manager. See the disk mod zip file - it's the driver that enables page files on USB storage.

Curious that you get a hang on boot off ZIF with the network cable in. I wonder if there's some kind of resource sharing thing going on.

Dan, you might be able to answer whether there's a way to get at the fake BIOS settings?
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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by carled » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:39 pm

Well. Colour me confused.

I've downlaoded, expanded and mounted the vhd. I've got minitool partition wizard running. I've deleted all partitions on my USB stick.

Now it gets confusing. You refer to "clone" and I can't find that command. I have "copy" and I chose that for what comes up as the "L" partition on the VHD - the EFI. I picked the USB drive and it asked where to, selected unpartitioned space and told it to copy and expand. Logical or primary? Dunno, selected primary. Applied changes. Wrote "K" partition (2.8GB) to unallocated partition as above.

Plugged into side joggler USB port, loads of text scrolls followed by: "fs0:xoj-ntldr is not recognized" and it boots into joggler o/s

Same stick has worked for 2 versions of linux and an android distro... any ideas people?

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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by carled » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:16 pm

Aha. Getting further now... I copied the entire disk this time, not the partition ;-)

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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by guidows » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:21 pm

thanks Mevi.
I'm testing the image and I'm pretty impresed.

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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by danfoshizzle » Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:13 pm

Re looking at the fake BIOS, it will all be contained inside the efi, give me an hour and ill get you the source.
Great build though mate,
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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by Mevi » Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:58 pm

carled wrote:Well. Colour me confused.
Yeah. I was the same a few weeks back. Once you've done that a few times, it becomes second nature! There is a bit of history as to how this works on the Joggler. If you look for the threads for Dan's previous XP and Windows Server 2003 builds, that'll be good background reading.

I think there is a problem with this build. Not a deal breaker, but you may need to update the driver for the hard disk in order for Windows to use the USB drive for a page file. I think as it's been installed for previous disks (mine) then it'll be there in c:\windows\system32\drivers. Otherwise, download the zip file earlier in the thread.

Go to Device Manager, expand Disk Drives, right click your drive and Update Driver.

Next tick the NOT THIS TIME option, next INSTALL FROM A LIST OR SPECIFIC LOCATION

Next DON'T SEARCH, I WILL CHOOSE...

Next, select DISK WITH PAGEFILE. When it asks for the location, have a look in system32\drivers and if it's not there you'll need to download it.

It'll be fixed next build.
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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by Mevi » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:09 pm

danfoshizzle wrote:Re looking at the fake BIOS, it will all be contained inside the efi, give me an hour and ill get you the source.
Great build though mate,
Thanks Dan. The reason I asked is that fixes for the NIC 'error 10' that I've read have suggested that a "bios update" fixes it... also Pete has observed strangeness, stalling boot up when an ethernet cable is connected when booting off the ZIF.

The replacement shell i was using was good and I had it looking quite nice with swipe able volume control on the task bar and other goodies. Problem was that it kept running out of memory for bitmaps and stuff was disappearing. I'm looking out for a replacement shell for XP that can be customised. If anyone can recommend one, let me know. 8-)
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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by Mevi » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:12 pm

guidows wrote:greetings from Chile!
8-)
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How to build your own Windows XP for the Joggler
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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by danfoshizzle » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:35 pm

have contacted eric for you, to get the source code. the link on his site is down and i cant find the copy i had either :(
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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by pete » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:48 pm

I have the source code on my other computer; will upload it in a few minutes; its from Eric's post.

BTW Greetings from Cheecaahgo. (Chicago).
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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by danfoshizzle » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:51 pm

cheers pete,

Greetings from just outside Kent/London i should add lol
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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by pete » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:21 pm

Here some source code PE Ghost image that Eric posted on his web site.

Source code linked here:

http://hotfile.com/dl/134763521/c107b94 ... c.rar.html

Here's the Ghost PE image that Eric also posted.

http://hotfile.com/dl/134763641/f14f26c ... 1.gho.html
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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by pete » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:25 pm

Mev,
Curious that you get a hang on boot off ZIF with the network cable in. I wonder if there's some kind of resource sharing thing going on.
Yes on the ZIF drive and the USB SSD drive. I changed to an older NIC driver and its doing the same. My other XP setup will boot mostly on the second reboot with the NIC cable plugged in and occassion it gets the O2 error.

Today though I am play more with the ZIF drive. The page file error is happening about every other boot or so. WIll update per your recommendations.
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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by pete » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:36 pm

Mevi,

I did your posted recommendation above for the disk pagefile fix; worked great; thank you. Old NIC driver I tried didn't fix the NIC boot hang thing. If I unplug the NIC and wait until its booted; then plug in; it works.
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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by Mevi » Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:32 am

I'm downloading now although I have to wait 29 minutes for the 2nd file, says hotfiles - time to delete a cookie and turn on the vpn. :D

I'll have a look through it tomorrow, my brain hurts.

Goodnight from North Essex, UK :D
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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by pete » Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:19 am

Here in Chicago the night is still young for the "yout"; except for us old foggies. Thanks Mevi for the opportunity you provided to us!!!
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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by danfoshizzle » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:23 am

Good luck with the efi mevi, i just had a look and it seems as though its a pure efi setup, IE no bios exists as far as i can see anyway.
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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by Quinten » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:45 am

First off, great work mevi, thanks for your effort.

But would it be possible to get it in a different format than the VHD? I'm on OSX and I can't do anything with it :( Unless I'm missing a trick?

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Re: RELEASE - Windows XP Professional SP3

Post by Mevi » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:08 pm

Quinten wrote:First off, great work mevi, thanks for your effort.

But would it be possible to get it in a different format than the VHD? I'm on OSX and I can't do anything with it :( Unless I'm missing a trick?
I don't have much knowledge about OSX (I just muddle through when confronted by other people's machines), but as VHD is quite an established disk image format, I'm sure that there are tools out there to do the conversion OR someone might be able to suggest which would be a good format to upload it in. I'll do my best to accomodate! :)
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How to build your own Windows XP for the Joggler
http://www.jogglerwiki.com/wiki/WindowsXP

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