SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by goodlife » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:01 pm

I'm finding that most Listen Again programmes won't play, not sure when this started, sometime since Christmas I think.
All the programmes are listed OK but if I select one (from the joggler touchscreen) I get the message: "Problem: Cannot open file for: <programme name>".
It then shows the programme picture, title and scrolling description correctly, but with the progress bar stuck at the start.
If I try to start from the LMS web page it seems to try an aac for a few seconds, then mp3, then stops.

I've tried this on Native PNP III and SqpOs - same behaviour. It happens for the majority of programmes, though I found a couple that did play.

Anyone else seen this? Any ideas?

thanks,

rob.

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by castalla » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:35 pm

It's a problem which seems to originate in the BBC's programme of switching the streaming formats - it also seems to affect users to a greater or lesser degree - some have no problems, others report symptoms similar to you. It's not a squeezeplay problem.

Solutions? Trial and error ... some streams work others don't.

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by simon » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:48 am

I have just moved LMS from my NAS to an Odroid/Squeezeplug install. As this has MPlayer installed, I was able to use the PlayWMA plugin and can now listen to some of the programmes that wouldn't play before.

"The PlayWMA plugin is designed to allow you to listen to WMA streams on players that do not support WMA. It also adds the ability to listen to many other radio streams."

HTH, Simon.

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by goodlife » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:46 am

Thanks for the suggestion.

I just went to try this, and found that Triode has provided an updated IPlayer plugin (v1.2.14) and everything seems to be working again, though I see he warns in the Slimdevices forum that the BBC seem to be messing around with the streams so there's no guarantee how long it will continue to work.

rob.

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by pukington » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:31 pm

Hey guys, long time no see. Glad to see support still for these great little gadgets. I use mine almost daily for network radio, and decided to update it to squeezeplay as recently got a spotify account.

I dont really want to run my pc that has LMS running, is there a way i can install a native LMS on the backend of squeezeplay, so then i can access my spotify account that way? Its a great idea to have my pc running to access my music collection, but a pita if i just want spotify on.

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by castalla » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:59 pm

pukington wrote:Hey guys, long time no see. Glad to see support still for these great little gadgets. I use mine almost daily for network radio, and decided to update it to squeezeplay as recently got a spotify account.

I dont really want to run my pc that has LMS running, is there a way i can install a native LMS on the backend of squeezeplay, so then i can access my spotify account that way? Its a great idea to have my pc running to access my music collection, but a pita if i just want spotify on.
Two ways:

Use the Settings option to access the LMS install feature

or

at the command line in SSH

download and install LMS

In both cases you'll have to reasign the location of your music collection if it's on a different device.

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by pukington » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:32 pm

Cheers Castalla, i must be looking in the wrong place, but i've gone through all the settings and haven't found an LMS install feature in squeezeplay! I'll look into the ssh route.

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by castalla » Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:29 pm

pukington wrote:Cheers Castalla, i must be looking in the wrong place, but i've gone through all the settings and haven't found an LMS install feature in squeezeplay! I'll look into the ssh route.
Okay.

Login via SSH

type

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sudo wget http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.8/sc/d15b48f/logitechmediaserver_7.8.1~1421915369_all.deb
That's all one line - this will download the latest 7.8.1 version

then type

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sudo dpkg -i logitechmediaserver_7.8.1~1421915369_all.deb

This will install LMS - be patient, it can take some time. Setup LMS the usual way via the webgui .

If you need access to your media then there are some additional steps ....

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by pukington » Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:05 pm

Cheers Castalla, i've come acroppa though, my device is throwing up an error that it has no space. It's still using the original onboard ram. Stretching my knoledge of linux from my uni days,

cannot copy extracted data for './usr/share/squeezeboxserver/CPAN/arch/5.12/arm-linux-gnueabi-thread-multi-64int/auto/Media/Scan/Scan.so' to '/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/CPAN/arch/5.12/arm-linux-gnueabi-thread-multi-64int/auto/Media/Scan/Scan.so.dpkg-new': failed to write (No space left on device)

joggler@openframe:~$ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mmcblk0p2 935M 695M 192M 79% /
none 4.0K 0 4.0K 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
udev 245M 4.0K 245M 1% /dev
none 192M 24K 192M 1% /tmp
tmpfs 50M 636K 49M 2% /run
none 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock
none 248M 0 248M 0% /run/shm
none 100M 0 100M 0% /run/user
none 256M 0 256M 0% /var/cache/apt
none 256M 0 256M 0% /var/lib/apt/lists
none 16M 424K 16M 3% /var/log
/dev/mmcblk0p1 31M 11M 20M 37% /boot

How can i free up some space for this,

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by castalla » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:13 pm

Ah! You need to expand the card using Gparted - to do this you'll have to use the Gparted Live CD (either as a CD boot, or if you don't have a CD in your Windows PC, then use the Gparted Live USB version). This boots your PC as a temporary dedicated Gparted linux device - there's a gui interface, Use this to expand the sd card.

Hope this helps.

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by fraserm » Sat Mar 07, 2015 5:41 pm

Hey Roobarb -

My Jogglers are still ticking over very nicely, they just work great :-)

One niggle I have is if on a restart of the unit, it loses the Audio Interface Volume settings - I always set it to Max in the Joggle Settings. So whenever I restart I have to go in and set it back to max, not very wife friendly!

Any chance this could be made persistent on reboot?

Thanks!
Fraser

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by johnnygal » Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:19 pm

Just had something really weird happen here.

I was running SqOS (v1.09 I think) with squeezeplayer updated to v.160 on internal memory and did a reboot.
It came back up and entered the Squeezeplay setup i.e. choose language, network settings, etc. I ran through this to get it back on the network.
When I logged on with ssh (had to re-install), it's as if the whole installation has been reset. Not just the squeezeplay settings but everything on the OS too!
I had network mounts configured in fstab - gone! fstab has a old timestamp of 4th Jan 2013.
I had chromium-browser and lighttpd installed - gone!
The Squeezeplayer version shows v1.53 (probably the version from the initial flash I did)

Any ideas how this can happen? And how to stop it happening again?

Cheers,
John

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by johnnygal » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:56 am

johnnygal wrote:Just had something really weird happen here.

I was running SqOS (v1.09 I think) with squeezeplayer updated to v.160 on internal memory and did a reboot.
It came back up and entered the Squeezeplay setup i.e. choose language, network settings, etc. I ran through this to get it back on the network.
When I logged on with ssh (had to re-install), it's as if the whole installation has been reset. Not just the squeezeplay settings but everything on the OS too!
I had network mounts configured in fstab - gone! fstab has a old timestamp of 4th Jan 2013.
I had chromium-browser and lighttpd installed - gone!
The Squeezeplayer version shows v1.53 (probably the version from the initial flash I did)

Any ideas how this can happen? And how to stop it happening again?

Cheers,
John
Oops, I know what's happened now.
This particular joggler has a 16GB usb stick inside it that it normally boots off. This has been working for a couple of years now. Looks like in this case it decided to boot from internal memory instead, hence the sudden apparent loss of all settings.
Thought it was weird to lose everything but this explains it.

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by Commodore.White » Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:34 am

Hi. Have been using picoreplayer as remote nodes for my joggler based squeezeplay system. Today I found this http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00O0U37HO/ on HUKD. It's a wifi dlna player. Can squeezeplay stream to dlna endpoints such as these and are they likely to support multiroom which my picoreplayer does a treat?

The spec says it's got wolfsondac so should be high quality. A number of similar products do something similar.

A unit like this will have a higher WAF than my efforts to disguise a raspberry pi as a flower pot! Not really, but you know what I mean.

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by castalla » Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:54 am

LMS can only stream local content to a dlna renderer - no radio streams.

However, if you use squeeze2upnp application then it might work - it would appear as another squeezebox player, and then will play all streams.

It all depends on how the device is designed for dlna/upnp ....

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by gegs » Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:42 pm

castalla wrote:However, if you use squeeze2upnp application then it might work - it would appear as another squeezebox player, and then will play all streams.
Can this be added to the Joggler version of LMS?

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by castalla » Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:53 pm

Squeeze2upnp is just an application which when run discovers a running instance of LMS, and then scans for any upnp devices on the network. Upnp devices (if compatible) then appear as squeezelite players to LMS.

there are win and linux versins of sq2upnp - the trick part is fine-tuning the config parameters for the upnp device. Sonos players, for examle, work out of the box - other upnp renderers might require more specialised config parameters.

Full details at https://github.com/philippe44/LMS-to-uPnP

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by ambassador100 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:58 pm

Hi everybody! Im just new here and (sorry) no native speaker, so it´s a bit tricky to find what i need. I recently bought an o2 joggler and now I´m trying to install SqueezePlay. I did as You describe on this link (http://birdslikewires.co.uk/articles/squeezeplay). The script started an finished with the sentence: SqueezePlay for Joggler installation is complete.
But i cant find any new icon of squeezeplayer. Can anybody please help me? Many thanks in advance!

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by hawsey » Fri May 01, 2015 8:30 am

Hi Ambassador 100 , welcome to the forum , we will help you out :-) .
I would suggest first upgrading the stock os to PNPIII using the instructions here

http://www.jogglerwiki.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=555
This will give you Squeeze Play on the stock software which it sounds like is what you are after .

After you have done this you could also try out squeeze play os .

http://www.jogglerwiki.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2119

Go to birdslikewires site above and put squeezeplay os on to a usb stick and try that , it runs off the usb stick and is the os many people on here are running on their Jogglers .
Good luck
Happy Joggling

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Re: SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native, Ubuntu & SQPOS)

Post by Man in a van » Fri May 01, 2015 9:23 am

ambassador100 wrote:Hi everybody! Im just new here and (sorry) no native speaker, so it´s a bit tricky to find what i need. I recently bought an o2 joggler and now I´m trying to install SqueezePlay. I did as You describe on this link (http://birdslikewires.co.uk/articles/squeezeplay). The script started an finished with the sentence: SqueezePlay for Joggler installation is complete.
But i cant find any new icon of squeezeplayer. Can anybody please help me? Many thanks in advance!


Did you comply with this part of the instructions?

The minimum you need to get started is an account at mysqueezebox.com, which will give you access to content over the internet. However, to get the most out of SqueezePlay you should install Squeezebox Server onto your computer. This will serve out any music on your system to SqueezePlay, Logitech’s own Squeezeboxes and many DLNA compatible devices. You can also install plugins to the server, which will add features such as Spotify support and BBC iPlayer radio streaming.

atb

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