SqueezePlay OS (Version 3) for OpenFrame

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Re: SqueezePlay OS (Version 3) for OpenFrame

Post by Man in a van » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:01 pm

philippe_44 on the SlimDevices forum has done plugins for AirPlay bridge, ChromeCast bridge, and UPnP/DNLA bridge.

If you don't do a LMS, I'm guessing we'll be able to do a straight forward install of the .deb package anyway, won't we?

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Re: SqueezePlay OS (Version 3) for OpenFrame

Post by johnnygal » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:53 pm

roobarb! wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:16 pm
johnnygal wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:34 pm
Yep, I still use 1.09 for various reasons.
Hey johnnygal; out of interest, why do you still run the older version? Only ask because I'm toying with the idea of making a version 4 when the Ubuntu 18.04 LTS release comes out, so wanted to check if I've missed something in v2 or v3. No promises, mind - I'll have to see how much has changed (systemd!) and probably need to do the 32-bit build on a 64-bit system (32-bit is not offered as standard any more in 18.04, IIRC) so I have no idea if it'll all come out in the wash right now.
johnnygal wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:34 pm
It looks like Roobarb is still hosting the older versions
Yeah, they're not going anywhere. Always be able to grab the oldies if they're needed.
Hi roobarb|

My jogglers serve many purposes at once - Music/radio via LMS, audio announcements from my Home Automation system via a squeezebox plugin, photoframe slideshow when not playing anything and finally displaying door/garden cameras on movement detection.

It was this last one or two requirements which I seem to recall were an issue when using a newer version of Squeezeplay OS, although it's a few years ago since I last visited tried OS 2 or 3, so my memories a bit sketchy :-)

To show an mjpeg stream from a camera, my Home Automation remotely runs a script on the joggler which runs up chromium-browser with parameters for the window size and stream source. Luckily on SQ OS1.09, the chromium-browser appears on top of the squeezeplay window so you can see the camera for the duration it's active.
I seem to recall that on a later version of SQ OS, the browser didn't appear 'on top' so you couldn't see the camera stream.

The photo slideshow uses the Squeezeplayer Image Viewer feature. I use lighttpd locally on the joggler to serve the images that are accessed as a mount point on the joggler and I think I had problems setting up lighttpd on later versions of SQ OS.
I have the Image Viewer settings to use a URL, which is a list of 'localhost' urls to each photo, served by lighttpd.
Although, just tried now setting the Image Viewer to use local storage media and pointing it to the mount point and that works ok, so not sure now why I went down the lighttpd route.

So the only issue may be the chromium-browser. Perhaps, if I get some time I may have another bash at SQ OS 3 and see if I have any issues still.
It would actually be nice to be on a supported (Ubuntu) OS as it would make access to rpms easier!

Thanks again for SQ OS,
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Re: SqueezePlay OS (Version 3) for OpenFrame

Post by johnnygal » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:05 pm

I have revisited SQ OS 3 and find that chromium-browser works the way I want it, so not sure why I had issues before.
I also have it on internal memory - yippee! Again, I've swapped/bought different jogglers since the last time I was testing this, so maybe the joggler I'm trying it on now is newer. Or maybe SQ OS3 has healing properties, persuading the internal memory into life as it restores the image ;-)

So I will give it a week or so soak testing before rolling it out to my other jogglers but one thing I have noticed that you may be able to help me with, roobarb!, is that once chromium-browser is installed, there is only about 20M free on the root partition, which doesn't leave a lot for logs,etc.
I had a quick ferret around for installed packages I could get rid of, hoping to find some games or such like, but couldn't see anything. Do you (or anyone) have any suggestions for packages I could remove.

Other than squeezeplayer, the only other things I use are chromium-browser and cifs for NAS mount.


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Re: SqueezePlay OS (Version 3) for OpenFrame

Post by JonTheNiceGuy » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:13 pm

roobarb! wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:16 pm
Only ask because I'm toying with the idea of making a version 4 when the Ubuntu 18.04 LTS release comes out, so wanted to check if I've missed something in v2 or v3. No promises, mind - I'll have to see how much has changed (systemd!) and probably need to do the 32-bit build on a 64-bit system (32-bit is not offered as standard any more in 18.04, IIRC) so I have no idea if it'll all come out in the wash right now.
I never did get a 16.04 build started much beyond finding your tooling... :) If there's anything I can do to help, let me know. I really want a newer version of Bluez for my HA stuff :D

I know some of the Canonical staff who also have had Jogglers, so if you're struggling with issues in the build, I can always ask them for some guidance :) - they're not obliged to reply though!!

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Re: SqueezePlay OS (Version 3) for OpenFrame

Post by roobarb! » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:03 pm

johnnygal wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:05 pm
I have revisited SQ OS 3 and find that chromium-browser works the way I want it, so not sure why I had issues before.
I also have it on internal memory - yippee! Again, I've swapped/bought different jogglers since the last time I was testing this, so maybe the joggler I'm trying it on now is newer. Or maybe SQ OS3 has healing properties, persuading the internal memory into life as it restores the image ;-)
Ha, good stuff! I'm sure there was some display stuff that changed between v1 and v2, but I honestly can't remember now.
johnnygal wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:05 pm
So I will give it a week or so soak testing before rolling it out to my other jogglers but one thing I have noticed that you may be able to help me with, roobarb!, is that once chromium-browser is installed, there is only about 20M free on the root partition, which doesn't leave a lot for logs,etc.
I had a quick ferret around for installed packages I could get rid of, hoping to find some games or such like, but couldn't see anything. Do you (or anyone) have any suggestions for packages I could remove.
There's not much, I think I binned pretty much everything that I could. There's definitely nothing of significant size that I'm aware of...
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Re: SqueezePlay OS (Version 3) for OpenFrame

Post by johnnygal » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:08 pm

roobarb! wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:03 pm
There's not much, I think I binned pretty much everything that I could. There's definitely nothing of significant size that I'm aware of...
I suspected that you had already trimmed it down to essentials but it was worth asking anyway.
Thanks. I'll perhaps just keep an eye on it and see how much it grows

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Re: SqueezePlay OS (Version 3) for OpenFrame

Post by general_failure » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:30 pm

Hi,

I have a joggler using Squeezeplay OS 3.03, which I have set up with a static IP on ethernet.
I would like to be able to take a new backup/image of this config that can be re-flashed without a PC or (much) user interaction.
Is there an easy way to do this ?

Thanks.

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Re: SqueezePlay OS (Version 3) for OpenFrame

Post by pete » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:49 pm

Actually here my SP'er OP2 got scrambled and I just used the current image on a stick and reinstalled it. The time consuming piece was connecting it to my WAP which took some 2 minutes.

The Squeezeplayer server is running on my MythTV box and the music is located on a mapped NAS.

It connected right up to the Squeezebox server.

I just recently utilized Clonzilla to make a backup image of a dual booting Ubuntu/Windows 10 configuration which worked great.
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Re: SqueezePlay OS (Version 3) for OpenFrame

Post by general_failure » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:31 pm

Thanks Pete, I'm fairly new to linux, but that turned out a lot easier than I expected.

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Re: SqueezePlay OS (Version 3) for OpenFrame

Post by pete » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:23 pm

Good news general_failure.

Yes Andy has made the write the new OS to the Joggler very much plugnplay.

Over time though the internal eMMC on the Jogglers get a bit worn down.
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