"Mycroft" using Ubuntu Snappy any use to us??

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roger l
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"Mycroft" using Ubuntu Snappy any use to us??

Post by roger l » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:53 am

An open source based Device similar to an Amazon Echo is the "Mycroft". It uses Raspberry Pi 2 hardware. The software is Ubuntu Core "Snappy" could that be modified for our use?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/janakiramms ... e2849a6f7d

The Base software is Ubuntu Core for Iot devices:
https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/
It may have been done or attempted. It just appears to utilise some of the functions that we could develop.
I am a complete novice as far as adapting so excuse me if it is an unrealistic idea.

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Post by hawsey » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:05 am

Looks really interesting Roger
I'm sure a Joggler might fit somewhere in to a Mycroft system but I'm not sure if it would run it ,
@BuZz would know the answer to this .
@Pete have you seen this .
Thanks for posting .

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Re: test

Post by pete » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:11 pm

First time seeing this.

Interesting stuff.
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Re: "Mycroft" using Ubuntu Snappy any use to us??

Post by Juggler » Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:44 pm

Very interesting.

Looks like other people have been asking the question for other lightweight x86 devices :
http://askubuntu.com/questions/622662/w ... core-image

Seems that the Intel NUC releases may be the closest :
http://betanews.com/2016/02/10/canonica ... -de3815ty/
https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/

Found an x86 image here :
http://releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/16/

Snappy core is lighter than arch :
http://askubuntu.com/questions/829020/u ... ment-board

Snaps and core :
http://snapcraft.io/docs/core/

Just off the top of my head but maybe a dig into the x86 image would reveal if there is any chance of getting ubuntu core running natively on a Joggler.

Digging a bit deeper; Ubuntu core is a very lightweight version of ubuntu and the snaps are the new packages. Heres the docs on Ubuntu core :
https://docs.ubuntu.com/core/en/

Interestingly, in the above, the following statement is made :

'This documentation will walk you through the steps to install and manage Ubuntu Core on any device as well as creating your own Ubuntu Core images.'

Any device... The Joggler ?

Here's the details for installing on a NUC
https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/intel-nuc/

So it can be flashed onto internal MMC. Joggler has that. Apparently it is cloud based and creates 2 read only file system partitions :
http://askubuntu.com/questions/589426/h ... buntu-core

More good reading :
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1434

Info on snaps :
https://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/snappy

In summary, Ubuntu core is a very lightweight linux. Looks like it can be installed onto internal flash or external flash. But what version of kernel is being used ? How similar is the boot process to that being used by ubuntu on the Joggler currently. Wil Joggler video be acceptable without the drivers that are not compatible with later versions of the Kernel.

To keep Jogglers going, it looks promising. But there are not many packages available at the moment. Still I think it is a good area to get into if your into IoT and technology that could be significant and unifying for future IoT.

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Re: "Mycroft" using Ubuntu Snappy any use to us??

Post by roger l » Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:33 pm

Thanks for digging deeper and the links to follow up. I thought exactly the same about the potential use of snaps. It may be worth a try on a test joggler.
The IoT development area is set to increase, so we could possibly take advantage if it is compatible. Thanks again.

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Re: "Mycroft" using Ubuntu Snappy any use to us??

Post by hawsey » Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:44 pm

BuZz would be your best bet for this but he's a busy boy at the moment ;-)

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